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dr.vox
Hi, I bought this graphics card and later realised I need a new PSU as my current 305W PSU would be laughed at by it.
I bought a Colors 450U from Amazon, but unfortunately there are no specs on the Amazon page.
The box says the following for 450U:
+3.3V - 20A | +5V - 30A | +12V1 - 10A | +12V2 - 13A | -12V - 0.3A | +5VSB - 2.5A | Total Max. Output - 450W.

I'm not quite sure if this PSU will be adequate for running a 9600GT. Anyone care to help?

EDIT: If not, would the 500W version be sufficient?
28A - 30A - 14A - 13A - 0.3A - 2.5A - 500W

EDIT2: Ok turns out the 450U only has one SATA connector, whereas the box advertises two for 450-550W units. A review on Amazon for the 550U says he had only one SATA connector too. I need two at minimum, so I'm sending it back, hopefully, and getting a 650W which is only £2 more than the 500 and 550W units.
The 650W specs are listed (on the box) as follows:
28A - 30A - 20A - 20A - 0.3A - 2.5A - 650W
Addnan
I wouldn't trust that power supply. I never heard of that brand before.

Any decent 450W power supply can power a 9600GT. I would recommend buying power supplies made by Corsair, SilverStone or OCZ.

I know there are more brands that will be recommended by people, not exactly sure what they are though.
XForsakenX
ya i agree psu is the last thing you want to skimp on money for, get a cheap one and it will probibly fail and take your rig with it sad.gif .
dr.vox
I wish I could say I have enough money to splash out another 40 (or up to 70, I'm seeing) quid on a PSU, but to be honest I just can't afford it. Thanks for the concern, I appreciate it and accept your reply, honestly, I normally feel the same about using unknown brands (I rarely buy from companies I've never heard of) but I just can't afford it and don't want to have to wait another few months or so until I can spare such cash.

So could the 450/550/650 run the 9600GT?

Alternatively, if anyone can find a PSU which would run a 9600GT for under £30 on a reputable site, I'd be more than a little grateful. smile.gif

EDIT: What about this? Probably not, but it's Novatech, who are pretty well-known, really.

Also, I found the CiT (colors) PSU on Play.com, which has to count for something? (link.)
Addnan
I can't find anything from a good company for that price.

I can find something that is a little over your budget http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152505

This won't run much more than a 9600GT, so if you upgrade again, then you will have to upgrade your power supply.
dr.vox
Would a 400W be sufficient? I've heard the minimum is 450W.
Especially considering I have two HDs and a DVD drive on top of that.
Should probably mention: I'm not going to be buying a new graphics card any time soon.
Addnan
QUOTE (dr.vox @ May 20 2009, 06:17 PM) *
Would a 400W be sufficient? I've heard the minimum is 450W.
Especially considering I have two HDs and a DVD drive on top of that.
Should probably mention: I'm not going to be buying a new graphics card any time soon.

I'm pretty sure the 9600GT minimum requirements are 400W with 26amps on the +12v.

I think you are looking at what XFX recommend. Nvidia say minimum is 400W with 26amps on +12v is enough.

EDIT: I have the XFX 9600GT and on the box it says minimum 400W with 26amps on +12v
dr.vox
That OCZ is rather tempting, especialyl with its four SATA connectors, but I'm still really reluctant to fork out that extra tenner considering I wasn't intending on buying a new PSU in the first place.

Found the Colors on eBuyer, too, by the way... http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139864/show_product_overview

How about this one though? Great price and 43 reviews with an average of 5 stars. 2 SATA connectors (will be enough if I use the older 4 pins).
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124922/show_product_reviews
Addnan
QUOTE (dr.vox @ May 20 2009, 06:27 PM) *
That OCZ is rather tempting, especialyl with its four SATA connectors, but I'm still really reluctant to fork out that extra tenner considering I wasn't intending on buying a new PSU in the first place.

Found the Colors on eBuyer, too, by the way... http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139864/show_product_overview

How about this one though? Great price and 43 reviews with an average of 5 stars. 2 SATA connectors (will be enough if I use the older 4 pins).
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124922/show_product_reviews

Getting the OCZ will save you money in the long run. They are very reliable and have a 3 year warranty just incase.

These unknown brands will most likely develop faults very quickly.
dr.vox
Warranty is also very tempting...
Looked at the Arctic Power's manufacturer's site and turns out both the 500W and 600W only have one 12V line at 18A and 20A respectively.
Might bite the bullet and take the OCZ. Will have a look around.

Found it on Aria for £27 on offer. Think I might just take it.
http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+...productId=33914

Any idea of it's 12v rating though? From what I've gathered over the last few days, its 12V rating is almost as important as its Wattage.
Addnan
QUOTE (dr.vox @ May 20 2009, 06:40 PM) *
Warranty is also very tempting...
Looked at the Arctic Power's manufacturer's site and turns out both the 500W and 600W only have one 12V line at 18A and 20A respectively.
Might bite the bullet and take the OCZ. Will have a look around.

Found it on Aria for £27 on offer. Think I might just take it.
http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+...productId=33914

Any idea of it's 12v rating though? From what I've gathered over the last few days, its 12V rating is almost as important as its Wattage.

The +12v is very important.
I found this on newegg showing the +12v LINK

This power supply has enough.
dr.vox
I found the same statistics in a PDF manual on OCZ's own site. 17A and 14A - should give a good 28/29A at least.
Think I'll take that deal on Aria. Looks like exactly what I want to be honest - great price, enough SATA cables, 3 year warranty, well-known manufacturer, great reviews, etc., etc.

Don't think I have much else to add, so nothing left to say but thanks for your help, addnan. Feel quite a bit more confident with OCZ, too (have some of their high quality RAM in this machine too).
Thanks again. smile.gif
Addnan
QUOTE (dr.vox @ May 20 2009, 06:55 PM) *
I found the same statistics in a PDF manual on OCZ's own site. 17A and 14A - should give a good 28/29A at least.
Think I'll take that deal on Aria. Looks like exactly what I want to be honest - great price, enough SATA cables, 3 year warranty, well-known manufacturer, great reviews, etc., etc.

Don't think I have much else to add, so nothing left to say but thanks for your help, addnan. Feel quite a bit more confident with OCZ, too (have some of their high quality RAM in this machine too).
Thanks again. smile.gif

Happy to help.
dr.vox
Turned out Aria wanted like £7 for shipping, total amount was £42. Bought it from eBuyer for £39ish with SuperSaver delivery [five day wait now : ( ]. Almost twice as much as I wanted to pay originally but it should be worth it, and hopefully this thing will last a fair few years. I'll probably try stick it in my next PC too.
dr.vox
Card came today. Side of the box says:
Nvidia Minimum Supply Requirements
400Watt or greater (with a 12V current rating of 26A)

XFX Recommended Power Supply Requirements
Non-SLI: 500Watt or greater
SLI: 600Watt or greater.

EDIT: Ok, so the Quick Start guide booklet which came with it tells me to use either TWO SIX-PIN power connectors, or TWO EIGHT-PIN power connectors, and to NOT use a (splitter?) which transforms two four-pin power connectors into one six-pin power connector.
However, they even INCLUDE such a two four-pin to one six-pin connector AND there is only one six-pin port on the card.
Addnan
QUOTE (dr.vox @ May 21 2009, 03:01 PM) *
Card came today. Side of the box says:
Nvidia Minimum Supply Requirements
400Watt or greater (with a 12V current rating of 26A)

XFX Recommended Power Supply Requirements
Non-SLI: 500Watt or greater
SLI: 600Watt or greater.

EDIT: Ok, so the Quick Start guide booklet which came with it tells me to use either TWO SIX-PIN power connectors, or TWO EIGHT-PIN power connectors, and to NOT use a (splitter?) which transforms two four-pin power connectors into one six-pin power connector.
However, they even INCLUDE such a two four-pin to one six-pin connector AND there is only one six-pin port on the card.

The power supply you ordered already has a 6pin PCI-E. That is all it requires.
dr.vox
Yeah, knew it had a six pin but wasn't sure why the booklet was asking for two six or eight pins when it only had one six pin port.
Was thinking of trying it on my current PSU (350W, 28A) but it has no six pin and only one four pin.

Just gotta hold tight and wait for the OCZ then. sad.gif
Thanks again, though.
Addnan
QUOTE (dr.vox @ May 21 2009, 08:43 PM) *
Yeah, knew it had a six pin but wasn't sure why the booklet was asking for two six or eight pins when it only had one six pin port.
Was thinking of trying it on my current PSU (350W, 28A) but it has no six pin and only one four pin.

Just gotta hold tight and wait for the OCZ then. sad.gif
Thanks again, though.

I think the leaflet is the same with every graphics card, so they make one that works with everything.

I highly doubt your current power supply can output 28amps. You can't just simply add them up. There has to be enough wattage on the +12v.
dr.vox
Yeah, by that I mean it says '12VA @ 14A, 12VB @ 14A.'
Either way, can't use it for the 9600GT anyway.

And yeah, makes sense about the leaflet being the same, too.
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