Several of us have reported data corruption with nForce 4 based motherboards.
I'd like to share my experiences with you. I hope nVidia's experts read this
forum and finally offer us the right solution.

In short: some random data data corruption happens if a motherboard is
stressed with DMA transfers (about 2 or 3 bytes altered out of ~5 GBytes).
The operating system does not log any error.

You copy a file of some GBytes, you compare them e.g. with the "comp"
command in a DOS window, and the two files wont be the same. You repeat
comparing them: you may see different errors at different file offsets each
time. It seems to be a random error.
You can reproduce this error under Linux, too, e.g. SuSE 9.3.

I think the data corruption happens when the DMA writes the memory.
- If disk writes (DMA memory reads) were broken, then once the file copy is
carried out (with some errors), you would always see the same errors when
comparing the two files repeatedly.
- I moved a disk of mines to an "old" machine, I created some files (big RAR-s)
and I double-checked them on that machine.
Moving back, the files seem to be corrupted.

It is funny to see that it is always the byte at the offset hexadecimal 0x1d8
(out of the 512 = 0x200 byte long disk sectors) that is altered by 0x10, e.g.
0x2f becomes 0x3f or vice versa.

My HW-SW configuration:
- MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MS-7125 ver: 1
- AMD Athlon 64 3700++
- 2 * 512 MByte Kingston DDR 400 MHz PC3200
- Leadtek PX6600 GT
- 2 * Maxtor DiamonMax Plus 10, 250 GBytes
- BIOS updated to 1.90, factory optimized defaults
- Windows XP pro + SP2 + nForce_amd_6.66.WinXP2K_international.exe
- SuSE Linux 9.3

The data corruption error can be reproduced with both RAID-ed and singe disks.

Just to make sure no other HW component can be blamed for this data
corruption, I changed:
- the CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000++ (the n-1 technology)
- the memory: no-name DIMs of 333 MHz
- the video card: an old Trio64 PCI
- the power supply: 2 of them from 2 other manufacturers
Needless to say that the data corruption error persists despite the speed
reduction of the machine.

For the log:
- The usual CPU temperature is about 35 Centigrade, the voltages are no
more that 2 % off from their nominal values.
- I tested the memory by the stand alone Memtest-86 v3.2 (e.g. on the
SuSE 9.3 install CD) for hours, no memory error could be detected.

I can reproduce this error by connecting my disks on both the S-ATA controller
built in to the nForce 4 chip set and on the Silicon Image's S-ATA-RAID controller
(I guess this latter is a PCI device happened to be soldered on the motherboard).
This is why I think it is the nForce 4 DMA logic (that is common for both of these
S-ATA controllers) that is responsible for this error.

I connected some P-ATA disks and some SCSI ones (via an NCR-875 card).
None of them suffered from the data corruption. Explanation: these disks stress
less the nForce 4 DMA logic due to their lower data rate.

Some of the posters suggested the the NCQ/TCQ would be the origin of the
data corruption. I set off the

Device Manager
...Nvidia nForce4 ADMA Controller Properties
......Primary and Secondary Channel
.........Enable Command Queuing

I compared some files of ~10 GBytes on a single disk: they did match.
Having become enthusiastic over the success, I compared files located on two
distinct disks. The deception was back: they were different.
The number of the differences were somewhat lower.

I organized my disks as RAID-0. In addition to switching off the command
queuing as before, I set off the

Device Manager
...Nvidia Stripe Properties
......SCSI Properties
.........Disable Tagged Queuing

It did not help.

I think by switching off the NCQ/TCQ, the error is not eliminated, only the
transfer rate is diminished.
If the nForce 4 DMA logic is sufficiently stressed, data corruption will happen.

I see that you are using Maxtor drives.. I know that some Maxtor SATA drives have some problems with nForce4 motherboards. If the hard drive were corrupting the data as it was being read, that would explain what you are seeing. It would be best if you could try some other model of SATA drive and see if the same problem shows up..

I am not seeing this problem on my A8N-SLI Deluxe with Seagate drives - I copied some 1GB files from drive to drive and did repeated "comp" on them, no differences were detected.

same error here, copied some 1 gig files.... 8 times the same file at the same time -> result? @comp: data corruption in 2 files ....

Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-8N SLI Pro
Harddrive: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 250gb (same as you)...

do you have any solution yet?

I came to the same conclusion with my Asus A8N-SLI Premium & Hitachi SATA hard drives even with NCQ off if you stressed the IO system enough under RAID 0 it would crash with a blue screen of nvatabus.sys or make odd sounds like a hard drive trying to read a bad sector with the usual paging to non-existent drive D error in the event log.
(Full surface scans of all my hard drives say their is nothing wrong as does S.M.A.R.T)

I have 4 Maxtor Diamond Max 10 300GB hard drives coming that I intend to use in a RAID 5 array and see how they fair, I suspect not much will change.

It is disheartening to hear the problem is in the chipset I had hoped it was just isolated to the integrated controllers as I was willing to wait for the first PCI-E RAID controller that comes out and disable Nvidias integrated controllers entirely now I will probably have to switch motherboards unless Nvidia can produce a fix.

"You can reproduce this error under Linux, too, e.g. SuSE 9.3."

=> have you used nvida linux drivers too? or have you tried it without drivers?

if youve tried it without drivers, theres no (sofware) solution for it

i thought first it was working when turning off the raid controller...but its the same ;(



EDIT:

"- If disk writes (DMA memory reads) were broken, then once the file copy is
carried out (with some errors), you would always see the same errors when
comparing the two files repeatedly."

Well, at mine the error is displayed at the same offset, if i check 1 file twice.. /

I made a 10Gb copy and used windiff.exe (from MS Windows SDK) to compare the two directories. I found no problems. So I think Nforce4 is OK.

mario: try to copy one 5gb file 10 times at the same moment..btw.....it seems that you dant have an amxtor hdd?

You may see my signature for rig. I have two seagate hds raid0 ncq enabled. I have a slightly o/c rig DDR440 1:1 1T, 2420MHz cpu.
You asked me to copy a 5gb file ten times. This is not what you did I think. I did copy a 10gb directory once and it was OK. I am not going to write and compare 50Gbytes. This is going to take for ever. I am satisfied with the results I got. I also have 3 more Intel based rigs and they have had random corruption problems on a few cases in the past. This nforce4 rig is great. No problems at all here.

Complete opposite of my situation I have 3 Intel motherboards I can test with (845, 875 & 955) all of which are 100% rock solid with the same Hitachi hard drives that get corrupted if hooked up to the Asus nForce 4 motherboard and a look over Asus own support forums shows many others with the same problem or something related to the IO corruption like slow boots, lock up's, blue screens on the nvatabus.sys etc.

Also the fact the original posters board was an MSI model shows this isn't an isolated Asus issue and a trawl of many other tech sites shows more people all thinking that the data corruption or various hard drive problems they have are solved by turning off NCQ/TCQ but really their still there I'd bet.

I wish I was as lucky as you and didn't have these problems as its giving me nothing but a headache after spending a lot of money, maybe Nvidias nForce 4 chipset has compatibility issues with certain hard drives is so that's bad news for Nvidia but good news for Seagate .

well, here is how I tried it:

i copied an 4gb file 8 times....and ive done this copying of the 8 files at the same moment, so that the harddisk is fully used. if i copy them after and after, there isnt an error.....and i do the same thing when comparing then..
copying + checking @com ~20 mins

i think if you disable command queing, the hard disk is much slower and its not that much data transfered...

OK I did it this way. I made four 4Gb zip files and copied them on another directory. Then I checked their Checksum Integrity numbers and they were all the same in pairs. (four checkings were running at the same time). No problems here once again. So your theory about nforce4 creating errors is wrong. This should happen on every case.

EDIT
I did it once again the way you said. I copied one 4Gb file to four different directories at the same time. Then I checked them all with fciv (file checksum Integrity Verifier) at the same time. I got the same number for all checks. This is not an extremely time consuming procedure. My system is O/Ced as I said before. I have taken a screenshot in case that you need it.

yep, then this error seams to only with some hard disks like the maxtor..

I am not sure whether your Maxtor is the problem. As I said before I had this problem a couple of years ago on an Intel D850MV mobo RDRAM based rig (I still have it and boots real fast). I never was able to track this problem down even though I tried hard. I had a suspicion that the culprit was the power connector to my ATI 9700 (I got an ATI 9600XT and corruption went away. I put my 9700 on another PC and no corruption there. Strange?). My PSU was an 650W Enermax so this wasn't the problem. When I first made my nforce4 based system 10 months ago I had four x512 Corsair ValueSelect Dimms. I checked them with memtest96+ overnight and gave me no errors. Though I was getting corrupted files and restarts. Then I checked them with memtest96+ test number 10 and I got errors right away from the first run. I checked them one by one with test 10 and two of them had errors. I replaced them and everything was OK at DDR333 2T only. There are so many reasons why you get corrupted files. The way you install Windows, the updates you got, other pci cards, your PSU, the chipset nforce4 cooler (I use a big passive heatsing along with a 5cm fan at 4000rpm) and I only use my Marvell ethernet controller (not nvidia's). I have my disks connected on the Nvidia SATA controller. I have not installed NAM or Nvidia sound drivers. Both are somehow buggy I think (I have posted about nvidia sound drivers causing problems and there are many complains about NAM). I do not need them anyway.

I already tested all the hardware that has the nForce 4 motherboard interfaces with the other Intel boards I have and don't get any data corruption. I have run memtest+ and Microsoft Windows RAM tester for 24hrs each and no errors reported.

The nForce 4 setup doesn't even have an PCI cards installed and the problems occur with or without the NVIDIA LAN controller enabled (yes I did a clean install both times to be sure in fact I have done so many clean installs from when I did not understand what the underlying problem was I never want to look at the blue install screen of XP ever again), I literally have spent days at this trying everything a different way to no success though I did at least resolve the slow boot problem.

I can only conclude that the nForce 4 chipset has compatibility problems with at least Hitachi and Maxtor SATA hard drives. I will be able to at least confirm if the problem persists with Maxtor drives & my motherboard as I have 4 coming next week.

Did you try to use relaxed memory settings? Try DDR333 (divider) 2T. Did you update your BIOS? (for ASUS A8N-SLI deluxe the latest is v1014). Did you make a floppy disk with Nvidia's 6.66 SATA drivers and use it during installation (you need to press F6 real fast). Do you have a Windows XPSP2 installation disk? (if not make one). Use only original CDs. Never use Internet packs with all updates intergrated. Did you install all M$ updates from the Internet? There are so many other things to do like installing UPHClean from M$. When I say clean install I mean avoid buggy programs like Norton AV and firewalls. Just use Windows firewall. I use Avast antivirus (though I have bought the original Norton 2005 AV). Avast was working during the 16 Gb copy verify job I mentioned before and I was writing posts on the Internet at the same time.

Yes I have done everything you already suggested (& more) and were the first things I tried to resolve the problem.

I can only hope that someone from Nvidia is reading this and actually goes out and buys one of these Asus or MSI motherboards and tests some Maxtor and Hitachi hard drives with them for themselves as trying to talk to Asus is like trying speak to a brick wall.

Maxtor Diamondmax 10 drives with firmware earlier than BANC1B70 have issues with S-ATA controllers other than Intel's ICH5(-R). You can find your hard drive's firmware on the drive itself.



To resolve compatibility issues with nForce3/4 and other controllers download this firmware :

http://faq.tweakers.net/om/1B70.zip

/me waves at Fudo

well, for what harddrive is it? diamondmax 10? which capacity? 250gig? 300gig? is it official?

My version is "BANC1G10"

BANC1G10 has no compatibility issues, you don't have to update to a newer firmware. The firmware was tested with a S-ATA harddrive. It should work with all S-ATA Diamond Max 10's. Disconnect all other IDE & S-ATA devices from your motherboard when flashing.

well, but when using "comp" it displays errors....

Thanks for that info FFWD with it I did some searching and found many links to people having problems with Maxtor hard drives. There was a very informative thread at DFI's own Lanparty forums detailing the problems and it seems your right in that Maxtor have trouble with anything other than the Intel controllers and have issued a variety of firmware updates to their own drives. I also found that Asus had issued bios updates to the A8N-SLI Deluxe to update the SATA boot rom in order to try and fix the problems so I'm not sure if you require a new HD firmware and a bios update maybe it depends on the motherboard.

But also in that thread someone noticed that they were having the same problems with Hitachi SATA2/NCQ hard drives like I was having, contrary to what I originally thought it wasn’t my first generation 7K250 SATA Hitachi’s that were the problem is was the second generation SATA2/NCQ 7TK250 hard drives that were the source of the delayed write errors, paging to disk errors and various other problems in short almost in the same boat as the Maxtor HD's.

A friend also confirmed to me that he had no problems with pre NCQ enabled Maxtor DiamondMax HD's and nForce 4 SATA controllers.

The 4 DiamondMax 10 300GB I have are;
Model number:6L300S0
Firmware:BANC1G10

It’s good to know that the firmware already on these has the fixes however I tried them in the A8N-SLI Premium in a RAID 5 array on the SI 3114 controller and the slow boot times came back (no corruption or didn't dissapear as others have noticied so thats good) but that could have been due to the fact that it was on the PCI controller but ultimately this board has given me nothing but grey hairs so I have given up on the Asus board and have an Epox nForce 4 coming that I will test with as it has the SI 3132 integrated chip which is a PCI-E SATA controller with NCQ support and I'm curious to see if they work with this controller and the Nvidia SATA controllers with NCQ support enabled.

So it looks like a bit of a mine field with who's to blame Maxtor/Hitachi or Nvidia if the Epox nForce 4 suffers the same problems and the firmware updates don’t work (according to some in the DFI thread they didn't change anything) then I may have to go with an ATI/AMD chipset yes it has terrible PCI and USB performance but at least it works with current hard drives (Google searches haven’t turned up any related problems yet).

I must check to see if Hitachi have anything to say about this as well.

That's strange..

Download this tool to create a MD5/SHA-1 checksum of the file.

I just wanted to report that I have big corruption problems with a computer here. It's running a DFI NF4 Infinity SLI, and Maxtor DMax10 160GB S-ATA, BANC1G10. Windows installed, but downloading even a 40MB file won't work. Had to try 3 times to get a 10MB file to work on the damn thing.

If I don't get it fixed in a few hours I will probably reinstall it on a WD 200GB P-ATA drive instead.

It seem like DMAX10 is the worst crap currently on the market, I haven't used them in years, but doesn't look like I'll come back to them now ether. WD and Seagate has a far better reputation in my book.

We've got Nvidia's attention. Still no word from Maxtor regarding this issue.

one test again..tested with NCQ on: (eventlog)
warning 51 - disk - "Bei einem Auslagerungsvorgang wurde ein Fehler festgestellt. Betroffen ist Gerät \Device\Harddisk0\D.

Weitere Informationen über die Hilfe- und Supportdienste erhalten Sie unter http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."

this error occured ~40 times in 10 secs.

ncq off:
no error

I'm having the exact same problem with my new Asus A8N-E motherboard and Hitachi T7K250 hard drive.

An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk0\D during a paging operation.

20 or so in a row, particularly when booting.

I was so excited to get this hardware but it's turned into a nightmare. The problem appears to be related to activity on the PCI bus. I have a soundcard that if placed in a pci slot that is sharing an irq with lots of other devices the error 51's will be almost constant yet if I place it into a slot with a non-shared IRQ then the errors are only about as frequent as the rest of you have noted. I dont know how relevant any of this is to solving the problem. Does anyone have an nforce4/sata hard drive combination that IS working properly?

for the record, ive been pulling my hair out over this problem for a week now. was excited about going dual core athlon but now very disappointed in the problems from nvidia chipset. im running 2 western digital 74GB raptors which i was finally able to get past the XP 32bit text setup with the 6.53 f6 drivers. i am getting enough data corruption on a regular basis to make the system barely useable for more than a few hours once it is loaded. . . depends on how much i stress the bus. im throwing my hands up for the nf4 chipset. can anyone recommend an alternative chipset for AMD 4400+ X2 & nvidia 7800GTX PCIx combo? a quick trip to fry's tonight turned up potential but also doubts.

Well apparently there are no issues if you use a Seagate hard drive from the 7200.8 series if you want to get up & running but that’s just from information I've read across the net (I wonder how the new 7200.9 series fairs ?) and I really cant say for certain.

Don't know about western digital drives but the caviar series seem okay too, I don't know why or how to resolve these problems and my guess this far is that the firmware on certain hard drives doesn’t work properly with the nForce 4 SATA controller and/or the motherboards bios/SATA boot rom needs updating to work with these drives.

As to why the newer generation of SATA drives have problems compared to the previous generation which work fine baffles me ???


I've emailed Hitachi and will wait to see what they say.

abit an8 ultra , maxtor diamond max 10 sata, BANC1G10,
I had also booting problems, windows didnt start+ in event viewer : error during paging operation..,
this problem occured always , when using this maxtor hdd + another ultra ata device set to master.. ( it was the same when: maxtor + seagate barracuda 7200,7 ultra ata set tomaster or maxtor + dvd rw lg set to master)
when this ultra ata devices where set to cable select, windows started correctly.....

when I used maxtor dm10 sata with another sata drives , there was no booting problem..

dowload corruptions a guy earlier talked about are the nvidia firewall


This is a known issue, the fix is to set the ActiveArmor default to "notoffloadable" rather than "offloadable".

there are 3 kinds of errors:

1-data corruption when copyping files: new firmware on hdd maxtor shoud solve it
2-data corruption when downloading file: active armor set to notoffloadable
3- slow starting of windows or windows didnt start, when there si combination of maxtor sata hdd+ another ultra ata device set to master: to set the ultra ata device to cable select has solved it...



1- firmware of my maxtor is BANC1G10 and I didn notice this error..
3- As I see I am first , who has found a solution for the 3. error. Did it try anybody else? maybe with hitachi drive? it is interesting that bios has detected all devices correctly and despite that , windows didnt boot...,


abit an8 ultra, opteron 144, maxtor dm10

maybe this belongs in a seperate topic, but I have an nForce3 board, and a maxtor diamondmax 10 drive and I have corruption problems as well, I have to reformat almost daily as a fatal corruption will occur within 24 hours that stops windows from booting at all.

oh, I also have a later firmware than the one indicated above which had problems.

Maxtor is junk, I'm getting a WD.

vladomir

I get as have one or two others get data corruption plus the event log errors with Hitachi 7TK250 drives it's not just Maxtor and the drive makes very unhealthy sounds while trying to write a large amount of data to the drive even a couple of hundred MB's which coincides with the event log errors.

As for the slow Windows start I got that too with my setup but I had no Maxtor hard drives in the system, 3x Hitachi and 1x Samsung. The way round that I found was to install the nForce IDE SW driver for some strange reason the XP install would install the RAID SATA driver for not just the RAID array on the two old (7K250) Hitachi's which worked fine BTW but also for the controllers that the standalone Samsung and Hitachi were on.

Anyway installing the IDE SW driver sorted out the driver and cut the boot time from 1:30 to about 40 seconds or so. Also the slow boot time came back when I put the Maxtor drives on the 3114 SATA controller present on the A8N-SLI Premium.

What S-ATA cables are you guys using? Are they high quality? What''s your hard drive and case temp.? Does it exceed 131°F (55°C)? It's very easy to blame Nvidia for all your problems, at least give them some information to work with.

There is a quick fix posted on this page..

http://www.amdgamer.com/read.php?rid=136&type=1

SATA 3,0gb cable (included @mainboard, orange ones)

hard drive temp: 29°C
case temp: low enough
cpu temp: 34°C
graphic temp: 41°C

That doesn’t fix the problem upperking see the first post of this thread (Well at least in certain cases anyway).

I've tried a variety of cables but there all made by one or two companies anyway so I see little difference and some of my hard drives work fine with the same cables on the nForce 4 SATA controller.

System temps were okay (cant give exact temps as the system has been taken apart) but I will be trying the system again with a better cooling system (A Zalman heatsink with fan attached) but the heat pipe system on the A8N-SLI Premium didn’t seem very effective to me at least but like I said some drives were fine one was not even with NCQ/TCQ turned off.

well, my question is: is it a...

a) nforce 4 driver issue
harddrive firmware issue
c) hardware issue

i dont think its the hardware....the maxtor diagnostic tool doesnt display any error..but i think it doesnt use ncq there/tranfsers a lot of data?

next 88

unhealthy sounds :
have you tested this hdd with any diagnostic tool? ( hitachi drive fitness test.)


in my opinion , the reason for booting problems has to do with latest nvidia drivers and conflict between devices..

I have reinstalled windows many times , formated partitions, changed sata cable, even changed motherboard, powersupply...everything....,..the hdd was also tested and was ok.,

the booting problem always occured after installing nvidia drivers,
even after installing nvidia pci system management driver the booting problem occured, so installing nvidia ide driver didnt have influence on this problem..

disabling ncq didnt help...,

my system didnt boot into windows, when another ultra ata device : barracuda 7200,7 or dvd rw lg was present in system a was set as master, as I have changed the switch to cable select, pc is booting ok..., it si difficult to believe, that this could help, but in my case it did..
I didnt test it with hitachi, but samsung hdd sata didnt have any problems...,
so samsung with another ultra ata hdd or dvdrw was not in conflict..., the problem was only with maxtor...

i am still experiencing data corruption to the raid drives as described in my prev. post. ive used every combination of raid/nf4 drivers ive been able to locate with no luck. ive disabled NCQ and this did not correct the problem. i also tried disabling the NE bit by an edit of the boot.ini file as recommended on another forum, no dice there either. a quick check to western digitals downloads shows no firmware updates for the raptor series that i could find.

as ive spent over 2k on hardware last week and not been successful in keeping this board stable for more than a day, im looking for another chipset for the following system specs: DFI Lanparty SLI-DR (nforce 4); AMD X2 4400+; BFG 7800GTX OC; 2x1GB OCZ pc3200; 2x74GB WD Raptor raid0

IT WORKS, tnx man - no more "error during paging operation..", finally and boots nice'n'easy, thanx very very much

Yeah did full tests with the drives including Hitachi's own diagnostic tools passes with no issues.

I see your slow boot tip/fix seems to have worked for Densey when I get the Asus board back up and running tomorrow I will give it a try though the only PATA devices I have are two DVD writers but I'll set them to cable select and see what happens. If that solution works though it still sounds like there is a bug in the bios/chipset somewhere.

when setting ncq on, windows boots slowly and display error 51....

in fact, the jumper on my dvd-rw writer was set to "master". But now i set it to Cable Select (On cable its master too), but the error is displayed again (51)....

Already tried that and didnt stop the paging to disk errors with my Hitachi 7KT250 and shouldn't a product that supports NCQ be expected to at least work with a NCQ SATA controller..

yeah of course...but the drive is slower then..

just purchased a brand spanking new WD2500jd (250GB Western Digital SATA - no NCQ support) per the recommendation of a previous poster saying they thought the caviar line may be ok. running it on the motherboard NV sata connection as a single drive. fresh install of windows - did not install the NV IDE drivers this time to see if this would help. still seeing data corruption on file transfers. seems to be worse when coming from the network card but still happens from CD/DVD installs of programs/files. this drive does not support NCQ/TCQ and there are no options in device manager to enable/disable NCQ/TCQ. finding myself very dissappointed w/ nvidia''s support for their chips. first time going w/ a non-intel chipset as i was enticed by the higher performing dual core athlons and i feel i may regret the move.

Guys, may be it helps
my system is:
Athlon 64 3000+
MSI K8N Sli Diamond bios ver. 1.7
2x512 Kingston HyperX 400
sata maxtor diamondmax 10 250gb 16mb banc1e00
sata maxtor diamondmax 9 80gb 8mb yar51ew0
pata DVD-RW Nec 3520a fw. 3.06
pata DVD Asus e616p3 fw. 1.07
Audigy 2 Platinum Ex
AverMedia AverTV studio 307
108Mbps High Speed Wireless Network Adapter
Windows XP SP2 with latest updates

BTW both of DVD's pluged in Secondary ATA Channel.

Well that sucks sKeii I thought WD would be okay as I have seen few posts on the various Nvidia related forums complaining about their HD's. I too switched over from Intel for my main system but I have a strong feeling I will be going back unless I can resolve these issues.

Just curious but did you try installing Nvidias SW IDE driver and does it still corrupt the data ?

There are the ATI/AMD chipsets worth considering but I have mixed feelings about those in that I know they have USB/PCI perfomance issues* but their IDE PATA/SATA performance is pretty good.

*If you get one with the ATI southbridge, the ones with the ULI southbridge are fine.

Of course being a glutten for punishment it did cross my mind to see if anything changes with the new nForce 6100/6150 boards as they use the updated southbridge that was in the Intel nForce 4 boards plus you get RAID 5 support.

Either that or wait for a PCI-E controller I know that XFX will be bringing out a RAID 3 PCI-E controller in December or January but thats still a while away and not much good if you dont use RAID but I have seen 2 port PCI-E SATA controllers available but only in US web stores that use the Silicon Image 3132 chip hopefully they will become more widespead (well I have an Epox nForce 4 board coming tomorrow with one of these chips on it so I can at least let anyone know if the problems persist with that SATA controller).

I've had random blue screens at stock settings. I'm using two raptors in raid 0. Could this problem be the reason for my random blue screens?