After installing a new PSU (430w) and a new GeForce 9600 GT OC (this card asks for a 400w power source) and checking all of the connections several times, I have absolutely no problems running graphically intense games on the highest of video settings. I downloaded the video card monitoring program provided by NVidia and my graphics card is running with acceptable temperature ranges.
After installing I updated all drivers via the NVidia website.
After updating my drivers, I booted into BIOS and switched my graphics card location from onboard to PCI-E, where it is located in my computer.
After an hour or so of gaming my monitor will stop receiving a signal and my computer will lock up (repetitive sound bites, etc). This, to me sounds like an over-heating problem, but as soon as I reboot, I can resume gaming again for another hour or so until this happens again (there is no wait or cool-off time). Also, I've kept an eye on the temperature and it never exceeds 60 degrees C. I have no idea what’s going on.
I know defective cards are fairly rare, but I’ve pretty much eliminated everything short of that. Now, I still have the integrated NVidia drivers installed on my computer from my prior card and am pretty sure they wouldn’t conflict with the new card (I’m afraid to delete them in the off chance this new card doesn’t work out for some reason).
Any ideas?
Full Version: Problems with my GeForce 9600 GT OC
QUOTE(rec0re @ Feb 26 2008, 09:46 AM)
After installing a new PSU (430w) and a new GeForce 9600 GT OC (this card asks for a 400w power source) and checking all of the connections several times, I have absolutely no problems running graphically intense games on the highest of video settings. I downloaded the video card monitoring program provided by NVidia and my graphics card is running with acceptable temperature ranges.
After installing I updated all drivers via the NVidia website.
After updating my drivers, I booted into BIOS and switched my graphics card location from onboard to PCI-E, where it is located in my computer.
After an hour or so of gaming my monitor will stop receiving a signal and my computer will lock up (repetitive sound bites, etc). This, to me sounds like an over-heating problem, but as soon as I reboot, I can resume gaming again for another hour or so until this happens again (there is no wait or cool-off time). Also, I've kept an eye on the temperature and it never exceeds 60 degrees C. I have no idea what’s going on.
I know defective cards are fairly rare, but I’ve pretty much eliminated everything short of that. Now, I still have the integrated NVidia drivers installed on my computer from my prior card and am pretty sure they wouldn’t conflict with the new card (I’m afraid to delete them in the off chance this new card doesn’t work out for some reason).
Any ideas?
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After installing I updated all drivers via the NVidia website.
After updating my drivers, I booted into BIOS and switched my graphics card location from onboard to PCI-E, where it is located in my computer.
After an hour or so of gaming my monitor will stop receiving a signal and my computer will lock up (repetitive sound bites, etc). This, to me sounds like an over-heating problem, but as soon as I reboot, I can resume gaming again for another hour or so until this happens again (there is no wait or cool-off time). Also, I've kept an eye on the temperature and it never exceeds 60 degrees C. I have no idea what’s going on.
I know defective cards are fairly rare, but I’ve pretty much eliminated everything short of that. Now, I still have the integrated NVidia drivers installed on my computer from my prior card and am pretty sure they wouldn’t conflict with the new card (I’m afraid to delete them in the off chance this new card doesn’t work out for some reason).
Any ideas?
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Hi!
Have you updated the chipset driver for your motherboard too?
Updated the sound card driver?
If your integrated video chip is another brand than Nvidia? Uninstall the driver for it.
It could be that your video cards memory is overheating. The temperatures from the card you see is from the temp diode, wich only measures the gpu (Graphic Processor Unit) temperatures.
If you have a spare case fan lieing around? Have it arranged to blow over the card from back to front.
Or open the case and have a table fan flowing in. If this works?
Then maybe, you should consider getting a "pci blower fan" like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835299004
Probably, the best placement is below the video card ( hot air trapped under the card). But exsperiment some with the placement anyway.
For updates for my chipset; where can I find the information on my computer (as to the exact chipset I'm using) to search for an update?
Also download RivaTuner and use it to turn your fanspeed up. I'm not sure of the default setting but the 2 previously released cards from Nvidia were set to 29% duty cycle for the fanspeed. While this made the fan absolutely silent, it sucked for cooling the card. Cranking it up to 50-60% duty cycle will still keep it all but silent but will greatly increase the cooling efficiency.
Axis
Axis
QUOTE(rec0re @ Feb 26 2008, 10:07 AM)
For updates for my chipset; where can I find the information on my computer (as to the exact chipset I'm using) to search for an update?
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Download Everest Home.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
Look under "motherboard" + "chipset" + "northbridge chipset".
Then head over to the chipset manufacturers home for a new driver.
If you find that your mobo have a"NForce chipset"? It's Nvidia home you should visit.
And as Axis said. Download Riva Tuner and crank up the vga fan some.
Downloaded RivaTuner, How do I work this program; I'm not seeing and fan clocking settings.
QUOTE(rec0re @ Feb 26 2008, 10:21 AM)
Downloaded RivaTuner, How do I work this program; I'm not seeing and fan clocking settings.
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1. In the main menue. Click the tab "settings". Check the box that makes Riva Tuner start with Windows. Return to the main menue.
2. Click the button in the window, where it says "Forceware detected". Click the video card icon and the "fan tab" and change the small window in the upper right corner from "auto control" to "direct control". Set the "performace 3D" slider to a higher value. The other sliders will follow as soon as you save the setting.
QUOTE(where?wolf @ Feb 26 2008, 02:28 AM)
1. In the main menue. Click the tab "settings". Check the box that makes Riva Tuner start with Windows. Return to the main menue.
2. Click the button in the window, where it says "Forceware detected". Click the video card icon and the "fan tab" and change the small window in the upper right corner from "auto control" to "direct control". Set the "performace 3D" slider to a higher value. The other sliders will follow as soon as you save the setting.
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2. Click the button in the window, where it says "Forceware detected". Click the video card icon and the "fan tab" and change the small window in the upper right corner from "auto control" to "direct control". Set the "performace 3D" slider to a higher value. The other sliders will follow as soon as you save the setting.
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I'm probably just being an idiot, but under "Driver Settings" it does have a list of ForceWare Detected, but there is no button to click
QUOTE(rec0re @ Feb 26 2008, 10:34 AM)
I'm probably just being an idiot, but under "Driver Settings" it does have a list of ForceWare Detected, but there is no button to click
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In the main menue. You have 2 windows with a button at the end. The uppermost, tell you what video card you have.
The other window says "forceware detected" click the button to the right in that corner.
And you will find the video card icon I whas talking about.
Click the screenshot one more time after you have opended it. Could be you got a corrupt download too?
QUOTE(where?wolf @ Feb 26 2008, 03:12 AM)
In the main menue. You have 2 windows with a button at the end. The uppermost, tell you what video card you have.
The other window says "forceware detected" click the button to the right in that corner.
And you will find the video card icon I whas talking about.
Click the screenshot one more time after you have opended it.
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The other window says "forceware detected" click the button to the right in that corner.
And you will find the video card icon I whas talking about.
Click the screenshot one more time after you have opended it.
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Mine does not have that button. I'm downloading the forecewear drivers for my specific card. I'm not sure if that will do anything. Does that mean the card wasn't auto detected?
QUOTE(rec0re @ Feb 26 2008, 11:15 AM)
Mine does not have that button. I'm downloading the forecewear drivers for my specific card. I'm not sure if that will do anything. Does that mean the card wasn't auto detected?
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Maybe you should check your device manager?
Also, download this driver cleaner, and use it after you have uninstalled the present driver.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745
This is how to use the cleaner:
Enable the "multiple filter". Add following to the cleaner filter: Nvidia, Nvidia wdm and Nvidia stereo. Run the cleaner and reboot. Install the new driver.
Or maybe, you just got a corrupt download of Riva Tuner?
Did you download the Riva Tuner 2.06?
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163
QUOTE(where?wolf @ Feb 26 2008, 03:19 AM)
Maybe you should check your device manager?
Also, download this driver cleaner, and use it after you have uninstalled the present driver.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745
This is how to use the cleaner:
Enable the "multiple filter". Add following to the cleaner filter: Nvidia, Nvidia wdm and Nvidia stereo. Run the cleaner and reboot. Install the new driver.
Or maybe, you just got a corrupt download of Riva Tuner?
Did you download the Riva Tuner 2.06?
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163
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Also, download this driver cleaner, and use it after you have uninstalled the present driver.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745
This is how to use the cleaner:
Enable the "multiple filter". Add following to the cleaner filter: Nvidia, Nvidia wdm and Nvidia stereo. Run the cleaner and reboot. Install the new driver.
Or maybe, you just got a corrupt download of Riva Tuner?
Did you download the Riva Tuner 2.06?
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163
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Yup, that exactly what I DLed.
What I have looks liek this...
bah, I'm getting a little frustrated. Are there any other programs available to clock the fanspeed up? I'm at a loss.
Hello,
I overclocked my 9600 GT OC as you can see here.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/8qmwb/
I used the Gainward Expertool from here, http://www.gainward.net/support/support_uk.html
Simply download, install, run and then click on the taskbar icon. Make sure to set it to start with windows. Then you can over clock and set fan speeds, see temp with a click or two on the taskbar icon.
Chris
I overclocked my 9600 GT OC as you can see here.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/8qmwb/
I used the Gainward Expertool from here, http://www.gainward.net/support/support_uk.html
Simply download, install, run and then click on the taskbar icon. Make sure to set it to start with windows. Then you can over clock and set fan speeds, see temp with a click or two on the taskbar icon.
Chris
From what i understand there are issues in the new arcitecture of the cards. I am having the same issue but have been pointed in the direction of power.
I am using an Ultra 500w PSU and after about 4 hours of use on the new card the same issues happened to me.
I am going to run the BFG 9600 GT OC on a stress test over night on a bigger PSU and see if there are any improvements. If it fails, then i would lead to card failure and return it.
I am using an Ultra 500w PSU and after about 4 hours of use on the new card the same issues happened to me.
I am going to run the BFG 9600 GT OC on a stress test over night on a bigger PSU and see if there are any improvements. If it fails, then i would lead to card failure and return it.
Installed 2 N9600 GT cards in 2 different machines. Both with 500w power supplies. Both systems have this exact same problem. Time before black outs vary from a few seconds in game to a few hours. Machines are 1 XP Pro & 1 XP Pro 64 with different specs. Temps never got above 50C for us. For now I've put our old cards back in & hoping there will be some answers soon. Happy to provide any info I can if needed.
Alright found the solution. Our PSU's simply are not supporting the cards. My card ran all night at 100% and was still pumping fine in the morning. It was tested on a Silverstone 650w (dont know the model) with a 54amp single rail. I will talk to the guy who tested it and see if there is anything elts worthy of posting.
Blah! So I'm going to need 2 new power supplies to run these cards? The 400w required is to just turn the card on, if you want to use it you'll be needing more. Guess I'll do some pricing, but before I buy please give me any specs I should really look at on the new power supplies so that I'm not sinking more money into nothing.
I have the EXACT same problems as you guys. I have a 520w psu installed and sometimes I can play tf2 for an hour or more, sometimes it crashes within minutes, and I get the same black screen and looping sound as you. I was about to RMA the card until I found this thread. What power supplies are you all looking at? And are we sure that this is the solution?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817341002 is what I am looking at right now.
I just bought a BFG 9600 GT OC from Worst Buy[2-27-08].30 seconds into ANY game the screen locks
up solid and I have to hard reset the computer.I have a 500w psu so that's not the problem.Both the
drivers from the BFG disc and the latest from Nvidia's site cause the lockup.On a whim I booted into
linux[I dualboot XP & PCLinuxOS]expecting to get dropped to a shell,even though I have the latest Nvidia
linux drivers installed.To my surprise everything worked-I even played Call of Duty 2[under Wine]for an
hour with no problems and gpu temp only reached 44C.So my card must be fine and the problem is not
the power supply-it must be the friggin' windows drivers are half-baked.Nice-I buy a $200 card to play
the latest windows games like Crysis,COD4,etc.,all I get is 30 seconds then the error message"nv_
driver has stopped working".What good is a fast card with faulty drivers?Nvidia better fix this soon or
they will end up losing a lot of customers.
up solid and I have to hard reset the computer.I have a 500w psu so that's not the problem.Both the
drivers from the BFG disc and the latest from Nvidia's site cause the lockup.On a whim I booted into
linux[I dualboot XP & PCLinuxOS]expecting to get dropped to a shell,even though I have the latest Nvidia
linux drivers installed.To my surprise everything worked-I even played Call of Duty 2[under Wine]for an
hour with no problems and gpu temp only reached 44C.So my card must be fine and the problem is not
the power supply-it must be the friggin' windows drivers are half-baked.Nice-I buy a $200 card to play
the latest windows games like Crysis,COD4,etc.,all I get is 30 seconds then the error message"nv_
driver has stopped working".What good is a fast card with faulty drivers?Nvidia better fix this soon or
they will end up losing a lot of customers.
I don't even get an error message, my monitor just goes black and loses signal, forcing me to reboot.
EDIT: I am running the evga SSC edition
EDIT: I am running the evga SSC edition
QUOTE(nemenik @ Feb 27 2008, 05:53 PM)
I don't even get an error message, my monitor just goes black and loses signal, forcing me to reboot.
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Why it works in linux[with geforce 8 drivers no less]and not in windows with the "optimized" drivers is
crazy.I guess if Nvidia does'nt come out with a working XP driver soon I'll just return my 9600 gt and
get an ATI 3870.Supposedly those cards' drivers actually work with windows.
QUOTE(vcjan @ Feb 27 2008, 05:03 PM)
Why it works in linux[with geforce 8 drivers no less]and not in windows with the "optimized" drivers is
crazy.I guess if Nvidia does'nt come out with a working XP driver soon I'll just return my 9600 gt and
get an ATI 3870.Supposedly those cards' drivers actually work with windows.
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crazy.I guess if Nvidia does'nt come out with a working XP driver soon I'll just return my 9600 gt and
get an ATI 3870.Supposedly those cards' drivers actually work with windows.
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So you're running the 8 series drivers and it actually doesn't crash? Is that only in Linux?
Well I can say that I'm having the same issues that everyone else is. The fan will kick on and then the PCs goes dead - the power's still on and the monitor light goes to amber and I have to hard boot my machine.
And yeah, I updated my BIOS and chipset, deleted all the old and new drivers, down loaded drive sweeper and cleaned everything from my system - down loaded PC Wizard to make sure that nothing was running hot and yet nothing. It doesn't even write an event log so I can even see what's going on!
After reading a few other forums, it does indeed look like they lied about how much juice ya need to power this card. I just bought and installed this PSU - I hate the idea of taking out out and returning it. At this point, I'll return the card first.
It only does it when I'm gaming - World of Warcraft.
Brand Thermaltake
Model W0070RUC
Series TR2
Spec
Type ATX
Maximum Power 430W
Fans 2
PFC No
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails Single
PCI-E Connectors 1 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support No
Modular Cabling Support No
Hold-up Time 16ms min.
Efficiency > = 65%
Over Voltage Protection +5V trip point < +7.0V, +3.3V trip point < +4.5V, +12V trip point < +15.6V
Input Voltage 115/ 230 V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63 Hz
Input Current 9A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V
Output +3.3V@20A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
And yeah, I updated my BIOS and chipset, deleted all the old and new drivers, down loaded drive sweeper and cleaned everything from my system - down loaded PC Wizard to make sure that nothing was running hot and yet nothing. It doesn't even write an event log so I can even see what's going on!
After reading a few other forums, it does indeed look like they lied about how much juice ya need to power this card. I just bought and installed this PSU - I hate the idea of taking out out and returning it. At this point, I'll return the card first.
It only does it when I'm gaming - World of Warcraft.
Brand Thermaltake
Model W0070RUC
Series TR2
Spec
Type ATX
Maximum Power 430W
Fans 2
PFC No
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails Single
PCI-E Connectors 1 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support No
Modular Cabling Support No
Hold-up Time 16ms min.
Efficiency > = 65%
Over Voltage Protection +5V trip point < +7.0V, +3.3V trip point < +4.5V, +12V trip point < +15.6V
Input Voltage 115/ 230 V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63 Hz
Input Current 9A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V
Output +3.3V@20A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
QUOTE(Maritas @ Feb 28 2008, 06:46 AM)
Well I can say that I'm having the same issues that everyone else is. The fan will kick on and then the PCs goes dead - the power's still on and the monitor light goes to amber and I have to hard boot my machine.
And yeah, I updated my BIOS and chipset, deleted all the old and new drivers, down loaded drive sweeper and cleaned everything from my system - down loaded PC Wizard to make sure that nothing was running hot and yet nothing. It doesn't even write an event log so I can even see what's going on!
After reading a few other forums, it does indeed look like they lied about how much juice ya need to power this card. I just bought and installed this PSU - I hate the idea of taking out out and returning it. At this point, I'll return the card first.
It only does it when I'm gaming - World of Warcraft.
Brand Thermaltake
Model W0070RUC
Series TR2
Spec
Type ATX
Maximum Power 430W
Fans 2
PFC No
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails Single
PCI-E Connectors 1 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support No
Modular Cabling Support No
Hold-up Time 16ms min.
Efficiency > = 65%
Over Voltage Protection +5V trip point < +7.0V, +3.3V trip point < +4.5V, +12V trip point < +15.6V
Input Voltage 115/ 230 V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63 Hz
Input Current 9A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V
Output +3.3V@20A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
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And yeah, I updated my BIOS and chipset, deleted all the old and new drivers, down loaded drive sweeper and cleaned everything from my system - down loaded PC Wizard to make sure that nothing was running hot and yet nothing. It doesn't even write an event log so I can even see what's going on!
After reading a few other forums, it does indeed look like they lied about how much juice ya need to power this card. I just bought and installed this PSU - I hate the idea of taking out out and returning it. At this point, I'll return the card first.
It only does it when I'm gaming - World of Warcraft.
Brand Thermaltake
Model W0070RUC
Series TR2
Spec
Type ATX
Maximum Power 430W
Fans 2
PFC No
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails Single
PCI-E Connectors 1 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support No
Modular Cabling Support No
Hold-up Time 16ms min.
Efficiency > = 65%
Over Voltage Protection +5V trip point < +7.0V, +3.3V trip point < +4.5V, +12V trip point < +15.6V
Input Voltage 115/ 230 V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63 Hz
Input Current 9A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V
Output +3.3V@20A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
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Thats really the only thing I can think of too, is that this card requires FAR more power than a 520w power supply can deliver. Because what else is there? A fault card? How have so many people experienced this problem then?
PS: My thead on the evga forums has many replies as well - http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=272011
I'm having the same problems.
I have a 650W Antec PS that was being used with a 7600GT with no problems.
I have 5 harddrives and 2 burners thats why I got at 650 back when I got my 760gt.
Now is it the 650w is not enough for the 9600GT with all my other stuff?
I have a 650W Antec PS that was being used with a 7600GT with no problems.
I have 5 harddrives and 2 burners thats why I got at 650 back when I got my 760gt.
Now is it the 650w is not enough for the 9600GT with all my other stuff?
I'm going to try a 500 PSU and see if this fixes the issues - if not, BFG can have their card back and shove it. I was on hold with their tech support last night for almost an hour *51 minutes is close enough* before I just hung up.
If 100 more watts isn't enough to juice this card, I don't want it.
EDIT:
oh man, after reading the post that posted while I was posting... *I think that's right* Maybe the card is just a piece of crap? If a 500 psu isn't enough to power it when it *clearly* sez the PSU requirement is 400 - something's not right.
And... I already took one card back because tech support said it might be the memory and then the 2nd one does the same exact thing.
If 100 more watts isn't enough to juice this card, I don't want it.
EDIT:
oh man, after reading the post that posted while I was posting... *I think that's right* Maybe the card is just a piece of crap? If a 500 psu isn't enough to power it when it *clearly* sez the PSU requirement is 400 - something's not right.
And... I already took one card back because tech support said it might be the memory and then the 2nd one does the same exact thing.
I may take all harddrives and dvdroms off except whats needed to see if it works. If it wont run with one harddrive and one dvdrom with a 650w PS something is not right.
This isnt some bs powersupply either.
Im starting to think its a driver issue though.
This isnt some bs powersupply either.
Im starting to think its a driver issue though.
QUOTE(dmagic1 @ Feb 28 2008, 04:00 PM)
I may take all harddrives and dvdroms off except whats needed to see if it works. If it wont run with one harddrive and one dvdrom with a 650w PS something is not right.
This isnt some bs powersupply either.
Im starting to think its a driver issue though.
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This isnt some bs powersupply either.
Im starting to think its a driver issue though.
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Well please me me/us know if this works or not.
I'm going to try down loading a different game that's heavy graphics and see if I can replicate the same shut down. *shrug* Maybe it's just World of Warcraft.
I seem to have fixed my problem by dialing back my overclock on my machine.
I do suggest maybe 500w.
Also as stated in the sticky topic, whats important is how many amp on the +12 rail.
I do suggest maybe 500w.
Also as stated in the sticky topic, whats important is how many amp on the +12 rail.
I just got off the phone with BFG tech support and the guy said it's now a know firmware issue with the 9600s. He also said that they're working on a update which should be out in a couple of weeks. A couple of weeks?!
I don't want to wait a couple of weeks for this to be fixed and *hope* it fixes it. As much as I'd like to keep the card, screw this.
I don't want to wait a couple of weeks for this to be fixed and *hope* it fixes it. As much as I'd like to keep the card, screw this.
QUOTE(Maritas @ Feb 28 2008, 04:14 PM)
I just got off the phone with BFG tech support and the guy said it's now a know firmware issue with the 9600s. He also said that they're working on a update which should be out in a couple of weeks. A couple of weeks?!
I don't want to wait a couple of weeks for this to be fixed and *hope* it fixes it. As much as I'd like to keep the card, screw this.
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I don't want to wait a couple of weeks for this to be fixed and *hope* it fixes it. As much as I'd like to keep the card, screw this.
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So...we aren't in need of new power supplies? Instead, we get to wait around until there are new drivers? Or, do i just send the cards back & call it a day?
I really should know better than to purchase latest hardware/software until it's well tested by the true experts(the users). If there is anything that microsoft has taught us it's 'always wait til the SP comes out'.
Hmm...
I'm guessing the guy on the phone meant driver and not firmware right?
I'm guessing the guy on the phone meant driver and not firmware right?
9600GT only requires ~250w power at max load 
I think its a driver problem.
I think its a driver problem.
QUOTE(dmagic1 @ Feb 28 2008, 05:46 PM)
Hmm...
I'm guessing the guy on the phone meant driver and not firmware right?
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I'm guessing the guy on the phone meant driver and not firmware right?
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No, he said firmware - there's an issue on/with the card.
I decided that I'm taking mine card back tonight to bestbuy and call it a day. I'll get something else. This was first BFG card and pretty much will be my last - I'll keep getting the nVidia but like Dashielle said, I should really know better than to buy something so brandy new that's not been out long enough to be throughly tested.
QUOTE(Dashielle @ Feb 28 2008, 03:43 PM)
So...we aren't in need of new power supplies? Instead, we get to wait around until there are new drivers? Or, do i just send the cards back & call it a day?
I really should know better than to purchase latest hardware/software until it's well tested by the true experts(the users). If there is anything that microsoft has taught us it's 'always wait til the SP comes out'.
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I really should know better than to purchase latest hardware/software until it's well tested by the true experts(the users). If there is anything that microsoft has taught us it's 'always wait til the SP comes out'.
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I probably should have waited too.. sigh. Either way, eVGA is sending me a new card! w00t.. now we'll see if it works.
Hello,
I don't understand how you guys are having such problems with your cards unless you are overclocking them too much. As I mentioned above, I have the BFG 9600 GT overclocked on top of the default OC. I have my card in an XPS 400 with the stock Dell 375w powersupply. I have played COD 4 and crysis numerous hours at a time and never once have I had any problems. I am only powering the card with one of the 4 pin connectors off of one 12v rail.
But I have no problems at all. I just can't figure out why my 3 year old pc is fine with a stock psu while you all think it's a psu issue that you are having.
Chris
I don't understand how you guys are having such problems with your cards unless you are overclocking them too much. As I mentioned above, I have the BFG 9600 GT overclocked on top of the default OC. I have my card in an XPS 400 with the stock Dell 375w powersupply. I have played COD 4 and crysis numerous hours at a time and never once have I had any problems. I am only powering the card with one of the 4 pin connectors off of one 12v rail.
But I have no problems at all. I just can't figure out why my 3 year old pc is fine with a stock psu while you all think it's a psu issue that you are having.
Chris
QUOTE(cbunting @ Feb 28 2008, 07:41 PM)
Hello,
I don't understand how you guys are having such problems with your cards unless you are overclocking them too much. As I mentioned above, I have the BFG 9600 GT overclocked on top of the default OC. I have my card in an XPS 400 with the stock Dell 375w powersupply. I have played COD 4 and crysis numerous hours at a time and never once have I had any problems. I am only powering the card with one of the 4 pin connectors off of one 12v rail.
But I have no problems at all. I just can't figure out why my 3 year old pc is fine with a stock psu while you all think it's a psu issue that you are having.
Chris
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I don't understand how you guys are having such problems with your cards unless you are overclocking them too much. As I mentioned above, I have the BFG 9600 GT overclocked on top of the default OC. I have my card in an XPS 400 with the stock Dell 375w powersupply. I have played COD 4 and crysis numerous hours at a time and never once have I had any problems. I am only powering the card with one of the 4 pin connectors off of one 12v rail.
But I have no problems at all. I just can't figure out why my 3 year old pc is fine with a stock psu while you all think it's a psu issue that you are having.
Chris
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The guy from BFG tech support said that no all the cards are doing this - just some - yeah like my 2 in a row. I think it's a bug with the cards. I said screw it and took the 9600 back to Bestbuy and went and bought a 8800 GT.
It says the PSU requirements are 425 - I have a 430 in there so we'll see.
QUOTE(Maritas @ Feb 28 2008, 05:04 PM)
The guy from BFG tech support said that no all the cards are doing this - just some - yeah like my 2 in a row. I think it's a bug with the cards. I said screw it and took the 9600 back to Bestbuy and went and bought a 8800 GT.
It says the PSU requirements are 425 - I have a 430 in there so we'll see.
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It says the PSU requirements are 425 - I have a 430 in there so we'll see.
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I purchase the same damn card. I have an antec 500w psu with 2x 17A 12V rails and i cant play longer then an hour or so. The system reboots, and display goes blank.
My XTX 1950 works fine in this machine..
The card requires 26A of combined 12v rail power. You have a single 12v rail at 18A, not enough to run (based on min requirements)
My system has 36A of 12v power and it does the same thing. So .... well who knows what the hell is wrong.
My system has 36A of 12v power and it does the same thing. So .... well who knows what the hell is wrong.
QUOTE(Maritas @ Feb 28 2008, 05:46 AM)
Well I can say that I'm having the same issues that everyone else is. The fan will kick on and then the PCs goes dead - the power's still on and the monitor light goes to amber and I have to hard boot my machine.
And yeah, I updated my BIOS and chipset, deleted all the old and new drivers, down loaded drive sweeper and cleaned everything from my system - down loaded PC Wizard to make sure that nothing was running hot and yet nothing. It doesn't even write an event log so I can even see what's going on!
After reading a few other forums, it does indeed look like they lied about how much juice ya need to power this card. I just bought and installed this PSU - I hate the idea of taking out out and returning it. At this point, I'll return the card first.
It only does it when I'm gaming - World of Warcraft.
Brand Thermaltake
Model W0070RUC
Series TR2
Spec
Type ATX
Maximum Power 430W
Fans 2
PFC No
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails Single
PCI-E Connectors 1 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support No
Modular Cabling Support No
Hold-up Time 16ms min.
Efficiency > = 65%
Over Voltage Protection +5V trip point < +7.0V, +3.3V trip point < +4.5V, +12V trip point < +15.6V
Input Voltage 115/ 230 V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63 Hz
Input Current 9A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V
Output +3.3V@20A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
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And yeah, I updated my BIOS and chipset, deleted all the old and new drivers, down loaded drive sweeper and cleaned everything from my system - down loaded PC Wizard to make sure that nothing was running hot and yet nothing. It doesn't even write an event log so I can even see what's going on!
After reading a few other forums, it does indeed look like they lied about how much juice ya need to power this card. I just bought and installed this PSU - I hate the idea of taking out out and returning it. At this point, I'll return the card first.
It only does it when I'm gaming - World of Warcraft.
Brand Thermaltake
Model W0070RUC
Series TR2
Spec
Type ATX
Maximum Power 430W
Fans 2
PFC No
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails Single
PCI-E Connectors 1 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support No
Modular Cabling Support No
Hold-up Time 16ms min.
Efficiency > = 65%
Over Voltage Protection +5V trip point < +7.0V, +3.3V trip point < +4.5V, +12V trip point < +15.6V
Input Voltage 115/ 230 V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63 Hz
Input Current 9A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V
Output +3.3V@20A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
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I am also having these issues. I dont want to just run out and buy a new power supply and/or take back my video card untill I know for sure why this is happening.
Model
Brand Antec
Model EA500
Series earthwatts
Spec
Type ATX12V v2.0
Maximum Power 500W
Fans 80mm low noise cooling fan
PFC Active
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails 2
PCI-E Connectors 2 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support Yes
Modular Cabling Support No
Efficiency > 80%
Energy-Efficient 80 PLUS Certified
Input Voltage 100 - 240 V
Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz
Input Current 9A
Output +3.3V@24A,+5V@24A,+12V1@17A,+12V2@17A,-12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2.5A
Model
Brand Antec
Model EA500
Series earthwatts
Spec
Type ATX12V v2.0
Maximum Power 500W
Fans 80mm low noise cooling fan
PFC Active
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails 2
PCI-E Connectors 2 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support Yes
Modular Cabling Support No
Efficiency > 80%
Energy-Efficient 80 PLUS Certified
Input Voltage 100 - 240 V
Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz
Input Current 9A
Output +3.3V@24A,+5V@24A,+12V1@17A,+12V2@17A,-12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2.5A
Hello,
The Antec 500 Earthwatts PSU is only 17A per 12 volt rail @ max load. So combined, it's +12V output: 34A.
Try this, Hook up your monitor to the connector to the right of the card if facing the connectors. Then plug in only one 12v rail closer to the pci-e connector. Just use the one rail for power and try that. If I plug both in, I get simular problems too it seems. So see what happens with just using one of the rails.
Chris
The Antec 500 Earthwatts PSU is only 17A per 12 volt rail @ max load. So combined, it's +12V output: 34A.
Try this, Hook up your monitor to the connector to the right of the card if facing the connectors. Then plug in only one 12v rail closer to the pci-e connector. Just use the one rail for power and try that. If I plug both in, I get simular problems too it seems. So see what happens with just using one of the rails.
Chris
Checking in to see if there's been any new information. I was reading on another board about lowering clock speed. I didn't buy this card to clock it back to what my old one was.
Hello,
Maybe there is a bad batch of cards or something. I've been checking the thread as well but I can't offer anything really. I have the BFG 9600 GT OC card and I've overclocked it on top of the stock oc.
You can see the difference in my oc here.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/8x9cg/
But as the other poster replied, My dell psu is 375w pushing only 18amps on the 12v rail (I have only 1 rail). So it's a bit odd that I've overclocked this much over factory but have none of the mentioned problems. I've played cod4 a least the past 6 hours and not a single issue at all.
It doesn't make much sense.
Chris
Maybe there is a bad batch of cards or something. I've been checking the thread as well but I can't offer anything really. I have the BFG 9600 GT OC card and I've overclocked it on top of the stock oc.
You can see the difference in my oc here.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/8x9cg/
But as the other poster replied, My dell psu is 375w pushing only 18amps on the 12v rail (I have only 1 rail). So it's a bit odd that I've overclocked this much over factory but have none of the mentioned problems. I've played cod4 a least the past 6 hours and not a single issue at all.
It doesn't make much sense.
Chris
QUOTE(cbunting @ Mar 2 2008, 04:19 PM)
Hello,
Maybe there is a bad batch of cards or something. I've been checking the thread as well but I can't offer anything really. I have the BFG 9600 GT OC card and I've overclocked it on top of the stock oc.
You can see the difference in my oc here.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/8x9cg/
But as the other poster replied, My dell psu is 375w pushing only 18amps on the 12v rail (I have only 1 rail). So it's a bit odd that I've overclocked this much over factory but have none of the mentioned problems. I've played cod4 a least the past 6 hours and not a single issue at all.
It doesn't make much sense.
Chris
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Maybe there is a bad batch of cards or something. I've been checking the thread as well but I can't offer anything really. I have the BFG 9600 GT OC card and I've overclocked it on top of the stock oc.
You can see the difference in my oc here.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/8x9cg/
But as the other poster replied, My dell psu is 375w pushing only 18amps on the 12v rail (I have only 1 rail). So it's a bit odd that I've overclocked this much over factory but have none of the mentioned problems. I've played cod4 a least the past 6 hours and not a single issue at all.
It doesn't make much sense.
Chris
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It must be a bad batch of cards them. The problems seem to be fairly consistant: a new card into an otherwise stable system.
Thanks guys! I'll give it a few more days & see if maybe some one comes up with a miracle. If no luck then 2 cards back to newegg until this stinky batch of cards is recalled. 
Out of curiosity, has any one seen any official word from NVidia? Maybe a rep saying 'we're looking into this'? These 9600's are obviously not an isolated issue since it's more than one manufacturer that's had problems. Anything except 'working as intended' would be nice to hear.
Out of curiosity, has any one seen any official word from NVidia? Maybe a rep saying 'we're looking into this'? These 9600's are obviously not an isolated issue since it's more than one manufacturer that's had problems. Anything except 'working as intended' would be nice to hear.
QUOTE(Dashielle @ Mar 3 2008, 09:17 AM)
Thanks guys! I'll give it a few more days & see if maybe some one comes up with a miracle. If no luck then 2 cards back to newegg until this stinky batch of cards is recalled.
Out of curiosity, has any one seen any official word from NVidia? Maybe a rep saying 'we're looking into this'? These 9600's are obviously not an isolated issue since it's more than one manufacturer that's had problems. Anything except 'working as intended' would be nice to hear.
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Out of curiosity, has any one seen any official word from NVidia? Maybe a rep saying 'we're looking into this'? These 9600's are obviously not an isolated issue since it's more than one manufacturer that's had problems. Anything except 'working as intended' would be nice to hear.
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Yeah, it would be nice for some official recognition of the problem. If only just to say "hey, we're working on it, you're not out there in the dark alone".
I am having this issue as well. I purchased the EVGA 9600GT SC, the 675Mhz one. I am also at a stand still with what to do. The weird thing for me is that I can play CoD4 forever and this not happen. When I play EQ2 it happens within 10 minutes. I am afraid to RMA it for the fear of getting another bad one.
I think it is safe to say that it is not our computers or hardware. I personally think it is a driver issue and it depends on the games we are playing, something to do with the way it renders certain games?
I am kinda sad I have nowhere to actually walk into to return it but it is the price I pay ordering on-line.... will keep my eyes peeled on this post for any new developments.
I think it is safe to say that it is not our computers or hardware. I personally think it is a driver issue and it depends on the games we are playing, something to do with the way it renders certain games?
I am kinda sad I have nowhere to actually walk into to return it but it is the price I pay ordering on-line.... will keep my eyes peeled on this post for any new developments.
QUOTE(pravius @ Mar 3 2008, 11:48 AM)
I am having this issue as well. I purchased the EVGA 9600GT SC, the 675Mhz one. I am also at a stand still with what to do. The weird thing for me is that I can play CoD4 forever and this not happen. When I play EQ2 it happens within 10 minutes. I am afraid to RMA it for the fear of getting another bad one.
I think it is safe to say that it is not our computers or hardware. I personally think it is a driver issue and it depends on the games we are playing, something to do with the way it renders certain games?
I am kinda sad I have nowhere to actually walk into to return it but it is the price I pay ordering on-line.... will keep my eyes peeled on this post for any new developments.
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I think it is safe to say that it is not our computers or hardware. I personally think it is a driver issue and it depends on the games we are playing, something to do with the way it renders certain games?
I am kinda sad I have nowhere to actually walk into to return it but it is the price I pay ordering on-line.... will keep my eyes peeled on this post for any new developments.
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Also, check this thread: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=272011
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