NVIDIA 177.35, Only For The GTX Series...Yea Right :) Options

[HellasVagabond]

NVIDIA Has made public the 177.35 drivers fot the GTX series.
Grab them from bellow and also grab the corresponding INF.
Tell me if theyre working guys, have to go to a funeral


XP 32-Bit INF
Vista 32-Bit INF

XP 64-Bit INF
Vista 64-Bit INF

This post has been edited by HellasVagabond: Jun 18 2008, 04:49 AM

[slim142]

I wish I could try them right now but Im currently testing some other stuff, if this fails I will try this driver for sure.

I really want NVIDIA to make a new driver for all their products. I hate when they start moving on and on and they leave the other series behind.

[Blackhearted]

Tried them in hope that these will let me have both changeable refresh rates and a smooth ut2004 this time and well.. Modified INF and all they do not install. The installer acts like it's trying to do something, then finishes much faster than it should. With the next window stating the system has not been modified.

Oh and before anyone asks: 8600GT.

This post has been edited by Blackhearted: Jun 17 2008, 04:07 PM

[Jambone]

These drivers do NOT work on any older cards than the GTX series...sorry guys.

[HellasVagabond]

Jambone its the INFs....For a strange reason i didnt modify them well...Could be cause of the limited time i had..
Ill check them again.

[slim142]

Not even LaptopVideo2Go has been able to get a working INF so I think people should stop trying this drivers.

[Vanderkaum]

Majorgeeks has the drivers up...they are reporting it supports all GPU's including the GTX series.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Nvidia_Forceware...2003_d5934.html

[Jambone]

Use this .inf:
http://rapidshare.com/files/123181117/nv4_disp.inf.html

Tested and working

This post has been edited by Jambone: Jun 17 2008, 09:39 PM

[HellasVagabond]

Just got back....Since majorgeeks already made the packs i see no reason to check the infs...Cant stop wondering what i did wrong so i may do it anyways
Jambone is that an XP x64 or a Vista x64 inf ???

PS : MajorGEEKS do NOT have the drivers modded...Its the same Official drivers as the ones found in the NVIDIA site.
Back to the drawing board


PS 2 : Check the drivers now, i think i found out whats wrong.


This post has been edited by HellasVagabond: Jun 17 2008, 11:59 PM

[slim142]

I might try this drivers later on... 175 series are a complete DISASTER

[d2ark]

From looking at the XP32 "nv4_disp.inf" file code, it looks like anyone with half a mind for program code can mod the file, at least so it installs.... Whether it works or not is another story, however, seeing as how most nVidia cards have the same base architecture for each family series, the chances are good you can get them to install...

*WARNING* I suggest you back up the original nVidia "nv4_disp.inf" file FIRST before modding it.

There are two main areas you need to mod: the [NVIDIA.mfg] device ID "registry" list near the top of the inf, and the "; Localizable Strings" list near the bottom.

All I've done, after looking at a few modded infs and comparing them to official nVidia inf's, is to add the entries for my particular video card, the 8800M GTS 512. My card's device ID is

%NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0609.1% = nv4_G9x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0609

so I added that entry to the [NVIVIA.mfg] device ID registry list right below the 0607.1, which is listed as the "G92-240" farther down

I also wanted my card type to be displayed right, so I added the following entry in the "; Localizable Strings" list, right below the 0607.1 entry that names the G92-240:

NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0609.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS"

I then saved the newly modded inf file and began installation. It popped up with a warning about not being certified with the Windows logo, but I told it to install anyways. I rebooted, and according to the nVidia Control Panel, I am running on the 177.35 drivers with my self-modded inf file.

I have yet to test them, though, so I shall try out UT2K4 (which was also stuttering on my card) and see if indeed it works or not.

I'll have results later, and everyone who tries this please post and tell me if it worked for yours as well!

[HellasVagabond]

The whole idea is to make it compatible with most cards out there and not 1. Plus there is also need to add resolutions which this package lacks.

These drivers are driving most people crazy....They work in some machines with the modded infs and in others they dont....I must have seen 10 more people like me trying to mod them and none is 100% succesfull since they dont install in some machines....Perhaps NVIDIA is trying to put a halt into Driver modding ?

This post has been edited by HellasVagabond: Jun 18 2008, 01:25 AM

[Franpa]

Thanks HellasVagabond, your INF's work perfectly with my BFG OC1 8800gt card under Windows XP Home sp3.

I am still restricted to 75hz at high resolutions but thats fine, ill live with it till Nvidia release a driver specifically for WinXP.

[d2ark]

I understand that now, HV - this is why I meant that it is for DIY if people wanted to.... As I found out, it didn't quite work...

And yes, you're right - When I tried running UT2K4 it ONLY allowed me 1088x612, or something messed up like that, and same in the nVidia Control Panel... So I did a roll back and am now using the modded 174.31 XP32 drivers, which run it perfectly, including no stutter.

Guess I'll just wait for the modded 177.x drivers inf to come out.

[d2ark]

These drivers are driving most people crazy....They work in some machines with the modded infs and in others they dont....I must have seen 10 more people like me trying to mod them and none is 100% succesfull since they dont install in some machines....Perhaps NVIDIA is trying to put a halt into Driver modding ?
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It wouldn't surprise me if they were... Maybe M$ is forcing them to only support certain cards in XP, and not the supposedly "Vista-only" cards (like my 8800M GTS), thereby finding another avenue of trying to force people into the inferior Vista OS much like the Halo 2 and Shadowrun "DX9.0c programmed, but coded so they call DX9 through the DX10 runtimes" "Made for Windows (Vista)" games?

That would be kind of counter-productive to nVidia's cause since a lot of us gamers know from experience that XP still runs games better than Vista, even with SP1 installed...

I know, I had Vista x64 Home Premium on this machine (Gateway P-6860 FX laptop), and everything ran like it was more of the 7800GS series of card (which I own and used) than the 7950GT (which I also own and used this laptop to upgrade from...), and definitely NOT on par with how an 8800 GT series should perform... So I retro-graded (UPGRADED, IMO) the laptop, using a P-6831 FX XP install guide (same hardware, different CPU & RAM amount), and updated to the newest updates (SP3) and use the modded 174.31 drivers....

Now THIS is what I call a screaming laptop! No stutters in UT 2K4 (like were in Vista), no choppiness in Guild Wars (flawless rendering at highest settings), Oblivion runs like a champ with no slowdown! This is what a gaming rig should do!

I hope someone *cough cough* nVidia *cough cough* is paying attention... I don't understand why they decided to let the manufacturers be responsible for supporting the video on the laptops anyways - they're the same base GPUs, and Gateway's drivers are ANCIENT!

[Ransuki]

Jambone is that an XP x64 or a Vista x64 inf ???
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It's for XP x32, I think, as it worked with my 6600LE AGP. Thank you, Jambone.

[Qazax]

d2ark dont turn it into an xp vs vista debate, and anyway you will find that a lot of the members on this forum (myself included) think that vista is far better than xp, in general and as a gaming operating system. your experiences where probably down to driver issues.

[HellasVagabond]

I too think VISTA is far better but they also need a far better CPU , GPU and lots more RAM than XP to work like a charm

Good to know the INFs work for some....I wish they did for everyone.

[d2ark]

d2ark dont turn it into an xp vs vista debate, and anyway you will find that  a lot of the members on this forum (myself included) think that vista is far better than xp, in general and as a gaming operating system. your experiences where probably down to driver issues.
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I'm not trying to turn this into an XP vs Vista debate (to me, there is no debate), but in retrospect, in my attempt at trying to illustrate the differences in performance based on two different OS's and three video cards, I guess it did turn into a Vista bash-fest. I admit, I am very adamant about highest control and performance of my hardware and software (no Luna interface - basic 2K-style Windows), and my experience with Vista in general has been very upsetting and disappointing, so I guess I was stating my opinion.... mayhap a bit too strongly...

But I wanted to let nVidia know that there are indeed some of us who still use XP and do it with much gusto, and would like driver support for our hardware as well instead of some 3rd-party corporate decision when / if we ever get new drivers...

And as far as the drivers: I also had some of the latest modded drivers for Vista 64-bit (the 175's, I believe), and even compared to my performance with them, the XP load on this machine runs all games much smoother and faster with the 174 drivers.

[Captiosus]

anyway you will find that���  a lot of the members on this forum (myself included) think that vista is far better than xp, in general and as a gaming operating system. your experiences where probably down to driver issues.
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Sorry if I'm jacking the thread. I tend to lurk around these forums but now I feel compelled to post.

'Driver issues'. The excuse drum still beats. This was the same thing that was said a year ago and I'm shocked to see it's still being used now.

I say: Bollocks.

When I was dual booting both Vista Ultimate and XP Pro, every single benchmark, both application and gaming, favored XP Pro, regardless of drivers. Here we are, a year later, and I still see less performance when I run apps and games under Vista, even with all the "user features" (sidebar, Aero/Flip 3D) disabled. And it's not like my machine is a slouch, either. In fact, I built my machine specifically for Vista!

Anyone who has looked at how Microsoft has changed Vista's system internals will not agree that Vista is a better OS than Windows XP. The memory calls have been optimized over XP, yes, but when it has to consistently make more of them because removing the old NT HAL means Vista has to do it all through programs and services, thus rendering the optimizations moot. Each of these services eat memory and processor time and, even if each only take a minuscule amount, they start to add up and deprive your applications of memory and CPU time.

On Vista, at system idle with nothing but system processes running (nothing I've installed running at start time or in the background except video and audio), my CPU sits at 4-5% usage. On XP, at system idle, with all my traditionally installed hardware and programs/services running my CPU sits at 1%. In the same comparisons, Vista uses 19% more system memory than XP.

Additionally, with respect to gaming, I find it hard to believe people have already forgotten that DX10 does not make DX9c calls as efficiently as native DX9 does - translating directly into slower performance of games using DX9c on the DX10 native Vista.

Hardware manufacturers have had nearly 2 years (including the early OEM sales time of Vista) to get their ducks in a row. So, please, don't hand me this "driver issues" excuse that's been beaten over and over again. There's a lot more than just "driver issues" that is wrong with Vista and it's at the core of the system.

I too think VISTA is far better but they also need a far better CPU , GPU and lots more RAM than XP to work like a charm
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Thank you for proving my point.
If you need a faster CPU, a faster GPU and more RAM to make Vista equal to or superior to XP, as it stands, then it's not a superior OS, just a more memory consuming one for the same result.

Or: I can make a Ford Pinto beat a Porsche Boxster in the quarter mile if I upgrade the Pinto's engine, upgrade the transmission with custom differentials and manipulate the car's power to weight ratio. But it's still a Pinto.

This post has been edited by Captiosus: Jun 18 2008, 05:45 AM