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Since http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=17158 and many other forum threads are getting really long and old, I was told by Moderator Amorphous to start a new forum thread about this NVIDIA issue. He wants to know our full details since the old threads are too long and confusing. I told him about these two issues people are seeing (might be more, so please kindly post those related ones too):

1. Why isn't there a fullscreen TV overlay option in 8xxx NVIDIA video cards when connected to a TV. We know the PDF manuals and KB say this is not allowed, but WHY? how come ATI/AMD can do it just fine even if it violates MS' requirements?

2. How come the aspect ratio on fullscreen video screen on TVs are incorrect. Everything is squished narrowly. For example, people look thinner and taller.

Here's my detailed issue since I do both gaming and watching videos (pretending to be a PVR too): http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt is my detailed computer configuration (primary Windows machine). I am using Windows XP Pro. SP2 with all critical updates (IE6.0 SP2), DirectX 9.0c (March 2008), etc. It doesn't matter what video players I use (e.g., Media Player v6.4 and v10, Media Player Classic v6.4.9 from latest K-Lite Codec Full Pack, latest VideoLAN Client Media Player, PowerDVD). They all show the aspect ratio problem on my old TV. I already tried uninstalling, using those tools to remove every NVIDIA video drivers, and reinstalling. I am using an EVGA NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT KO (512 MB; PCIE). I have it hooked up to a 19" LCD monitor (1280x1024 resolution) with VGA connection (connected via an old KVM) and to an over a decade old 20" CRT TV (composite; NTSC; via a VCR). It is not the KVM and VCR since others don't have those to have this problem. I am tried clone mirror and other options in NVIDIA's control panel. Desktop resolutions and outputs are fine on both displays. It's the fullscreen TV output with the problem (aspect ratio for me). In NVIDIA's control panel, there's an option called "Modify full-screen video options" and you can configure it do fullscreen or not for videos from software players (e.g., Media Player) if you didn't know.

V8x.xx driver worked fine from what I read on the forums. So, it is probably something in the newer one that causes this. I remember having no problems with the older drivers before year 2007.

I will have to upgrade my video card again in less than a year since I need a faster video card for newer games, but the fullscreen TV part is a problem so I might need to go to ATI/AMD video cards which I really don't want to do (slower performances too).

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- ant   For those with fullscreen video problems on TV...   Apr 20 2008, 07:54 AM
- - Daidoji Kaneda   Ok! my turn: Config: Athlon64 3000+ Gigabyte ...   Apr 20 2008, 11:27 AM
- - Amorphous   Hey guys, I'm trying to get more information a...   Apr 21 2008, 12:10 AM
- - ant   Bumped in case people missed this forum thread.   Apr 25 2008, 08:20 PM
- - dman777   I am having a problem getting the correct aspect r...   Apr 25 2008, 08:34 PM
|- - Templeton Peck   I'm in the same boat for #1. 8xxx series card ...   Apr 30 2008, 12:41 AM
|- - snik   QUOTE(dman777 @ Apr 25 2008, 10:34 PM)I am ha...   May 7 2008, 12:09 PM
- - zoddic   My problem 1) since Forceware 9x.xx, tv-out is str...   Apr 30 2008, 07:10 PM
- - Aeleon   Ok, my turn. I am currently using a 7950GT with d...   May 2 2008, 02:09 AM
- - DeadMan   From other thread. Check this out, as found in th...   May 3 2008, 01:44 PM
- - Troutking   Have anyone tried the beta 174.74 driver? I though...   May 5 2008, 01:43 AM
- - Troutking   Strange, have no issues using the 169.21 release(u...   May 7 2008, 12:59 PM
- - Amorphous   175.16 Drivers are in beta, but going through WHQL...   May 8 2008, 12:25 AM
- - Jeffs   Alright, my turn: I just bought an EVGA 8800 GTS ...   May 9 2008, 09:25 PM
- - Troutking   Yes, this is part of the issue everyone is referri...   May 9 2008, 11:38 PM
- - Jeffs   Amorphous, just wanted to point out from my post t...   May 10 2008, 06:55 AM
- - Mariste   Hi, I have simillar problems with video in Fullscr...   May 11 2008, 11:36 AM
- - dinodog   Ok Nvidia, so what's being done about the full...   May 20 2008, 03:04 AM
|- - Zathrus1972   QUOTE(dinodog @ May 19 2008, 07:04 PM)Ok Nvid...   Jun 5 2008, 03:05 AM
|- - ant   QUOTE(Zathrus1972 @ Jun 4 2008, 08:05 PM)Been...   Jun 5 2008, 03:45 AM
|- - Zathrus1972   QUOTE(ant @ Jun 4 2008, 07:45 PM)Did you have...   Jun 6 2008, 09:02 PM
|- - ant   QUOTE(Zathrus1972 @ Jun 6 2008, 02:02 PM)No, ...   Jun 6 2008, 09:03 PM
|- - Zathrus1972   QUOTE(ant @ Jun 6 2008, 01:03 PM)You should h...   Jun 9 2008, 05:34 PM
|- - Templeton Peck   When I bought a new 8000 series card last year, I ...   Jun 13 2008, 05:30 AM
- - ID-Boris   QUOTE(ant @ Apr 20 2008, 10:54 AM)2. How come...   May 24 2008, 10:22 AM
- - _jaja_   They simply will not have people using the vga car...   May 28 2008, 10:58 PM
- - Amorphous   I this still an issue, or should I consider it res...   Jun 4 2008, 04:48 AM
|- - ant   QUOTE(Amorphous @ Jun 3 2008, 09:48 PM)I this...   Jun 4 2008, 05:14 AM
|- - Amorphous   I couldn't say. I don't have a way to test...   Jun 4 2008, 05:15 AM
|- - ant   QUOTE(Amorphous @ Jun 3 2008, 10:15 PM)I coul...   Jun 4 2008, 02:13 PM
- - g000fy   xfx 8800 GTS 512MB (G92) nf4 (abit kn8 ultra) amd ...   Jun 4 2008, 05:33 AM
- - g000fy   you dont have any s-video input device at all?   Jun 4 2008, 08:22 PM
- - g000fy   1 more note you can make your own s-video dummy d...   Jun 4 2008, 08:45 PM
- - bouvrie   Coming from an ATI configuration on my old PC, I b...   Jun 26 2008, 07:29 PM
|- - doveman   QUOTE(bouvrie @ Jun 26 2008, 08:29 PM)At the ...   Oct 20 2008, 05:34 PM
|- - Deadman3000   QUOTE(doveman @ Oct 20 2008, 09:34 AM)My setu...   Oct 20 2008, 05:54 PM
|- - doveman   QUOTE(Deadman3000 @ Oct 20 2008, 06:54 PM)All...   Oct 21 2008, 12:48 AM
|- - Deadman3000   QUOTE(doveman @ Oct 20 2008, 04:48 PM)You mig...   Oct 21 2008, 03:04 AM
|- - doveman   QUOTE(Deadman3000 @ Oct 21 2008, 04:04 AM)Whe...   Oct 21 2008, 03:49 PM
- - iharding   This link was a great help to me - I hope you find...   Jul 4 2008, 01:51 PM
- - Furioso   QUOTESame here. It works for me with the 169.21 dr...   Jul 15 2008, 08:51 AM
- - chronnoz   guys, try this: -install klite mega codec pack -on...   Jul 21 2008, 04:08 PM
- - Lardzor   Time for me to chime in. I use TV Out a lot for w...   Jul 23 2008, 05:03 AM
|- - Patomas   QUOTE (Lardzor @ Jul 23 2008, 07:03 AM) T...   Jun 20 2009, 06:07 AM
- - Sujit Liddle   You're right, this sucks. I have a standard T...   Jul 24 2008, 03:05 AM
- - XtomJames   Well because my other thread isn't getting any...   Jul 24 2008, 04:00 AM
- - Troutking   "BUMP" No way this thread is gonna hid...   Aug 3 2008, 04:38 PM
|- - valec   I had the same issue when using my 6600 with a tv ...   Aug 7 2008, 07:47 PM
- - programmist   Just adding my 2 cents. I just upgraded my laptop...   Aug 25 2008, 03:27 AM
- - programmist   After several days of back-and-forth with tech sup...   Aug 27 2008, 10:20 PM
|- - arjones85   QUOTE(programmist @ Aug 27 2008, 02:20 PM)Aft...   Aug 28 2008, 12:20 AM
- - stradlinho   Oh well, no fix and its off to ATi for my upgrade....   Sep 3 2008, 03:18 AM
|- - KillerAce_NL   Dammit Nvidia FIX THIS ! I want to be able to ...   Sep 5 2008, 04:29 PM
|- - stuboy   QUOTE(KillerAce_NL @ Sep 5 2008, 04:29 PM)Dam...   Sep 5 2008, 11:32 PM
- - illusion87   I WANT MY OLD FULLSCREEN VIDEO OPTION NVIDIA! ...   Sep 6 2008, 08:47 PM
- - DeadMan   We are setting up a new website to publicise this ...   Sep 7 2008, 10:29 PM
|- - KillerAce_NL   QUOTE(DeadMan @ Sep 7 2008, 02:29 PM)We are s...   Sep 11 2008, 05:05 PM
- - notvvidia   same problems here, but my 6600gt is connect to a ...   Sep 8 2008, 01:51 PM
- - notvvidia   it is a really useful feature when one people can ...   Sep 8 2008, 02:54 PM
- - Tommy Jefferson   I wish to thank everyone for the information in th...   Sep 10 2008, 02:49 AM
- - MajGreg   I had to register just so I could post here, becau...   Sep 10 2008, 04:14 PM
- - agron   I just bought it yesterday (8600 GT 512mb). It was...   Sep 15 2008, 12:51 AM
- - ant   I saw "Removed Full-screen video mirror contr...   Sep 26 2008, 02:32 PM
- - ant   QUOTE(ploowy @ Aug 25 2008, 09:26 PM)And how,...   Oct 9 2008, 06:24 AM
- - greenmachine   Running a 8400m GT Vista prem Windows media 11 dir...   Oct 13 2008, 10:29 PM
- - DeW itt right   Hey guys, I just registered so I could post here, ...   Oct 15 2008, 12:06 PM
|- - NoName   QUOTE(DeW itt right @ Oct 15 2008, 07:06 AM)H...   Oct 15 2008, 07:16 PM
- - NoName   Anyone know what the last version of the drives ha...   Oct 15 2008, 06:43 PM
- - Deadman3000   My friend has posted a video on Youtube concerning...   Oct 16 2008, 05:17 PM
|- - NoName   QUOTE(Deadman3000 @ Oct 16 2008, 12:17 PM)My ...   Oct 16 2008, 06:27 PM
- - MattNo5ss   Windows Vista 32-bit 8800GTX driver 178.24: Flat ...   Oct 16 2008, 07:25 PM
- - Liperty   Firstly - my setup GeForce Release 178 WHQL ...   Oct 17 2008, 04:56 AM
- - Amorphous   This thread is not here to bash other forum users,...   Oct 17 2008, 05:46 AM
|- - KillerAce_NL   QUOTE(Amorphous @ Oct 16 2008, 09:46 PM)This ...   Oct 18 2008, 03:00 PM
|- - ljaygould   QUOTE (Amorphous @ Oct 17 2008, 12:46 AM)...   Nov 6 2008, 10:41 PM
- - Deadman3000   From https://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.....   Oct 18 2008, 04:35 PM
- - aN4rK1   Iam wondering if this is part of this problem or i...   Oct 20 2008, 03:54 PM
- - KillEmAll007   i haven't read all the threads, but i had the ...   Oct 20 2008, 08:30 PM
- - Deadman3000   Thanks. Sure I may be going a bit over the line. I...   Nov 6 2008, 11:26 PM
|- - ljaygould   QUOTE (Deadman3000 @ Nov 6 2008, 06:26 PM...   Nov 8 2008, 04:52 PM
- - Deadman3000   Fat lot of good that will do but worth a shot. On ...   Nov 8 2008, 07:22 PM
- - relaxo   I just found this thread via google. I recently r...   Nov 9 2008, 09:13 PM
|- - notvvidia   bump... for all to see   Dec 5 2008, 05:30 AM
- - cartoonjazz   Easy fix install gomplayer http://www.gomlab.com/e...   Feb 22 2009, 04:56 PM
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- - tomo22   To Amorphous Can you please advise us if the comp...   Jun 25 2009, 06:04 AM
- - Tommy Jefferson   Thank you Deadman3000 for the Youtube video. I ho...   Dec 17 2009, 10:37 AM
- - ant   QUOTE (Tommy Jefferson @ Dec 17 2009, 03...   Dec 17 2009, 03:05 PM


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