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folken_forever
post Nov 3 2009, 03:24 PM
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been playing Oblivion for a while... played it for about 80 hours with no problems... then crashing started to happen...

the problem for some reason is off and on... i can get a few hours good play out of it, and like today, i've tried to play it 3 times, each only lasting 5 minutes before the screen went totally black and i could still hear the music. the screen then went to standby mode.

I've been dealing with Oblivion problems for months now, and the problems have been varied. My computer without the game started acting weird at the same time too, will freeze up and i will get the blue screen of doom, or i will just have to force shut it down... but this is the most recent, and i've decided to seek help finally, so if any one can help... PLEASE!

computer specs:
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
System Model: MS-7501
Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ (2 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 1327MB used, 7103MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 64bit Unicode

Card name: ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9505)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_E630174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 2298 MB
Dedicated Memory: 507 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor

(a friend of mine put my computer together from separate parts we purchased over the internet... don't know if something is not compatible, but the computer did work fine for about a year, and then went downhill with frequent crashes and error messages)
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post Nov 3 2009, 04:25 PM
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When faced with an intermittent problem such as yours.

About the only way to figure out were the weak link is. Stress testing the machine.

Have you ever done any stress testing? Not that it matters to me. You do realize this is an nvidia forum?

You don't own any Nvidia hardware. Yours is all AMD/ATI AMD forums.com

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post Nov 3 2009, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (DrFPS @ Nov 3 2009, 04:25 PM) *
Have you ever done any stress testing? Not that it matters to me. You do realize this is an nvidia forum?

You don't own any Nvidia hardware. Yours is all AMD/ATI AMD forums.com

Just in case the admin/mods lock the thread you will know why...


What kind of attitude is that?

I would like to think that on these forums no matter what the problem or hardware, anyone is welcome.

Folken, can you post all of your hardware please, see my signature as an example.
And remember to include the power supply make/model.


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post Nov 3 2009, 09:07 PM
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I think your over reacting. No need to make it into some thing it is not. I'm offering him help. I would like to think it's an open forum too. Fact is, it's not. Hence the rules.
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The reason I gave him the heads up. They have been locked in the past. So you see it's all good : )


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What kind of attitude is that?

I would like to think that on these forums no matter what the problem or hardware, anyone is welcome.

Folken, can you post all of your hardware please, see my signature as an example.
And remember to include the power supply make/model.


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post Nov 3 2009, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (folken_forever @ Nov 3 2009, 05:24 PM) *
been playing Oblivion for a while... played it for about 80 hours with no problems... then crashing started to happen...

the problem for some reason is off and on... i can get a few hours good play out of it, and like today, i've tried to play it 3 times, each only lasting 5 minutes before the screen went totally black and i could still hear the music. the screen then went to standby mode.

I've been dealing with Oblivion problems for months now, and the problems have been varied. My computer without the game started acting weird at the same time too, will freeze up and i will get the blue screen of doom, or i will just have to force shut it down... but this is the most recent, and i've decided to seek help finally, so if any one can help... PLEASE!

computer specs:
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
System Model: MS-7501
Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ (2 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 1327MB used, 7103MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 64bit Unicode

Card name: ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9505)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_E630174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 2298 MB
Dedicated Memory: 507 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor

(a friend of mine put my computer together from separate parts we purchased over the internet... don't know if something is not compatible, but the computer did work fine for about a year, and then went downhill with frequent crashes and error messages)

Download GPU-Z and post ur temps here


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post Nov 4 2009, 05:15 AM
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When i first typed into google "Oblivion help" i received this forum as top on the list... just assumed i guess i could use the forum for that topic...
and thank you for the people interested in helping me out. my friend that built the computer for me is too busy with college to help, and i've taken it to staples, and all they do is reformat it... and it's been reformated twice, and still does the same problems.

as for the temperatures:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+
Temperature 0 45°C (112°F) [0x122] (Core #0)
Temperature 1 43°C (109°F) [0x11D] (Core #1)
ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series
Temperature 0 48°C (118°F) (GPU Core)
(i could not get a "during game" temperature, the computer froze instantly when i was about to start playing from the menu screen.)


as for the hardware specs:

Motherboard: MSI K9A2VM-FD AM2+/AM2 AMD 780V Micro ATX AMD

Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+, 2594 MHz

Memory: OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel

Hard Drive: Western Digital (465 GB, IDE) SATA

Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series

Sound Card: ATI Function Driver for High Definition Audio - ATI AA01

Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium Edition Service Pack 2, 64-bit

Powersupply: hec 6K34BS with HP585D 585Watt PSU



sorry if too much information or too little... first time i came up nice and neatly with my computer's specs.
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post Nov 4 2009, 05:29 AM
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By GPU-Z and Windows reporting that you have a "HD 3800 Series" card, it would seem that you don't have any dirvers installed for it, or they aren't working properly.

Here are the latest drivers for your card:

Catalyst 9.10 for Vista x64

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post Nov 4 2009, 05:35 AM
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QUOTE (The Professor @ Nov 3 2009, 09:29 PM) *
By GPU-Z and Windows reporting that you have a "HD 3800 Series" card, it would seem that you don't have any dirvers installed for it, or they aren't working properly.

Here are the latest drivers for your card:

Catalyst 9.10 for Vista x64


No, ATI Drivers just do that

on an older PC ive seen, with the most up-to-date ATI drivers it reports ATI X300 / X550 / X800 series when the actual model of the card is the X550

EG for the 5870


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post Nov 4 2009, 12:36 PM
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$26 585W psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817339009

Could be failing, if possible try a better power supply.

http://www.memtest.org/

I would also suggest running memtest, for at least 1 pass.


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post Nov 4 2009, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (DukeNukem @ Nov 4 2009, 09:36 AM) *
$26 585W psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817339009

Could be failing, if possible try a better power supply.

http://www.memtest.org/

I would also suggest running memtest, for at least 1 pass.



been trying to get this to work... i don't know if my computer just doesn't want to install the ISO program... i will have to try tomorrow, i know i've installed and used it before.
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post Nov 4 2009, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (DukeNukem @ Nov 4 2009, 09:36 AM) *
$26 585W psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817339009

Could be failing, if possible try a better power supply.

http://www.memtest.org/

I would also suggest running memtest, for at least 1 pass.


been trying to get this to work... i don't know if my computer just doesn't want to install the ISO program... i will have to try tomorrow, i know i've installed and used it before.
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post Nov 6 2009, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE (-{RaptoR}- @ Nov 4 2009, 03:35 PM) *
No, ATI Drivers just do that

on an older PC ive seen, with the most up-to-date ATI drivers it reports ATI X300 / X550 / X800 series when the actual model of the card is the X550

EG for the 5870

Hmmm. GPU-Z reported my HD4850 as a HD4850. Maybe it's only certain drivers or something?


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post Nov 7 2009, 01:51 PM
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well, thanks for the help everyone... i think i'm gonna go with the new power supply option... since it's not too unaffordable... and really makes sense with what's been happening to my computer.

if anyone wants to answer one last question...
should i get a more powerful power supply? is 585w enough for what else i have on my computer?
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post Nov 8 2009, 03:37 AM
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QUOTE (folken_forever @ Nov 8 2009, 12:51 AM) *
well, thanks for the help everyone... i think i'm gonna go with the new power supply option... since it's not too unaffordable... and really makes sense with what's been happening to my computer.

if anyone wants to answer one last question...
should i get a more powerful power supply? is 585w enough for what else i have on my computer?


YES! Oh sorry for shouting. Two threads are talking about the lack of power for our hardware.
550 watt might be enough for a good brand name PSU but a cheap no-name type is definitely a no-go.
Get a 600 watt minimum, I reckon.
Some things to think about .... are you going to add more hardware or stronger hardware to this computer? If so, check out what you need over the next year or two and buy to suit that.
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post Nov 9 2009, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (Cespenar @ Nov 7 2009, 11:37 PM) *
YES! Oh sorry for shouting. Two threads are talking about the lack of power for our hardware.
550 watt might be enough for a good brand name PSU but a cheap no-name type is definitely a no-go.
Get a 600 watt minimum, I reckon.
Some things to think about .... are you going to add more hardware or stronger hardware to this computer? If so, check out what you need over the next year or two and buy to suit that.
Cheers.



I'm sure i will eventually upgrade my computer a bit... so i guess i will look into over 600watt power supplies... thanks for the info!
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