 GeForce GTX 285 performance compared to GTX 280 - with SLIDES |
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 Dec 23 2008, 07:32 AM
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 One Cool Cat  Group: Members Posts: 8,581 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Europe Member No.: 35,535 Club SLI Member: No Org.: Geth  |
  http://bbs.chiphell.com/viewthread.php?tid...;extra=page%3D1 This post has been edited by F.E.A.R.: Dec 23 2008, 05:48 PM --------------------  My name is Legion, for we are many Sig: BluSOUL | CM690 | EVGA 750i SLI FTW SZ1E | Q6600 G0 @ 3.6GHz 1600FSB 1:1 | Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme | Mushkin XP2 Charcoal Grey CL4 4GB @ 800MHz | EVGA GeForce GTX 285 | Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro | Maxtor 500GB RAID 0 & 1TB SATAII | Thermaltake Toughpower 750W W0116 | Samsung 226BW 22" | Logitech X-540 5.1 | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 | 197.45 WHQL | 15.51 |
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Dec 23 2008, 08:00 AM
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so it's ten percent faster...
hopefully its like 25% less expensive for nvidia to produce -------------------- My Rig:
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Dec 23 2008, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (connor0007 @ Dec 23 2008, 01:00 AM)  so it's ten percent faster... hopefully its like 25% less expensive for nvidia to produce It may be less expensive to make, but do you really think nVidia is going to sell it cheaper when it comes out? This is the card I've been waiting to upgrade my 8800GT's too, but I'm afraid they're going to jack up the prices. --------------------  |
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Dec 23 2008, 10:49 AM
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I like the scores, if you can achieve this without any sort of overclock.
The card looks pretty tempting, But still I'm going to wait for the 350GTX -------------------- The Rig: EVGA 790I Ultra FTW C2D E6750 @ 3.4Ghz OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600Mhz 2 X 8800Ultra Sli Thermaltake 750Watt PSU Thermaltake Armor LCS Case Gone for a while now I'm back again. Back to back, back to break back's again. |
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Dec 23 2008, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE (Kid_Morbid @ Dec 23 2008, 11:49 AM) I like the scores, if you can achieve this without any sort of overclock. The card looks pretty tempting, But still I'm going to wait for the 350GTX The 55nm's will have a premiuim for a few weeks as older 65nm stock clears and because they have a 10% power jump but with a 2GB vram 4870, and or 4875 due any moment and rumours of the 5870 due in Q1 2009 the 55NM versions of the 260-280 should be alot cheaper in Q1 2009. We are now less than 6 months from the GTX 300 with 400 SP's and 2GB VRAM most probably GDDR5 with the 400 sp's most probably being a 55-40nm core (probably would have to be that small not to implode with heat the darn things gunna be 2 billion transitors+!) So if you can wait till late Jan the 55nm's should be no more than a standard 260-280 are now. And hopefully it won't be long till they are 10%+ less than the 65nm parts are now. --------------------  V Ult 64, QX9650 4GHZ, GTX 280 Sli, Razer Megladon 7.1 USB, SSD+Raptor Raid 0, EVGA 790i Black Pearl. 120" Optoma 1080p DLP 100Hz, 30" Acer 1080p N3D 120 HZ, 26" iiyama LCD 1200p 60Hz. Razer Lycosa SE, Razer Mamba Sony PS3 + Sharkoon Xtatic Digital 5.1. Acer Revo' Aspire 160GB HDD Vista HP 32 Acer ION HTPC x2. |
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Dec 23 2008, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (dirtylarryuk @ Dec 23 2008, 12:46 PM) The 55nm's will have a premiuim for a few weeks as older 65nm stock clears and because they have a 10% power jump but with a 2GB vram 4870, and or 4875 due any moment and rumours of the 5870 due in Q1 2009 the 55NM versions of the 260-280 should be alot cheaper in Q1 2009. We are now less than 6 months from the GTX 300 with 400 SP's and 2GB VRAM most probably GDDR5 with the 400 sp's most probably being a 55-40nm core (probably would have to be that small not to implode with heat the darn things gunna be 2 billion transitors+!) So if you can wait till late Jan the 55nm's should be no more than a standard 260-280 are now. And hopefully it won't be long till they are 10%+ less than the 65nm parts are now. I've got the patience, but not the cash  And that's a prospect I like, 40-55Nm being a standard. -------------------- The Rig: EVGA 790I Ultra FTW C2D E6750 @ 3.4Ghz OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600Mhz 2 X 8800Ultra Sli Thermaltake 750Watt PSU Thermaltake Armor LCS Case Gone for a while now I'm back again. Back to back, back to break back's again. |
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Dec 23 2008, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE (Tyrdstorm @ Dec 23 2008, 05:19 AM) This is the card I've been waiting to upgrade my 8800GT's too, but I'm afraid they're going to jack up the prices. Same thing here. I love my 8800GTs because they are a GREAT bang for the buck but now a days it seems like I need just a little more kick. -------------------- Main-------------------------------------------------HTPC/Folding Rig
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Dec 24 2008, 12:20 AM
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So is there anything else Nvidia did to the die-shrunk GTX 280? I heard earlier that they were packing more transistors into the core to give an extra performance boost.
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Dec 24 2008, 12:39 AM
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im sure u could stick em in sli and il b piking up on of these babies in january
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Dec 24 2008, 06:12 PM
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just so u know, this page is linked from fudzilla FEARS FAMOUS XD just kidding, but yeh, i thought that was pretty cool.
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Dec 24 2008, 09:08 PM
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 One Cool Cat, with Wings, Looking Down Over Us  Group: Administrators Posts: 5,249 Joined: 3-September 04 Member No.: 67 Club SLI Member: No |
DId you guys see the power draw? :p Thats significant for more reasons than one.
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Dec 25 2008, 12:19 AM
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I find it really annoying the way Nvidia plan out graphs like that, making it look better than it actually is to draw in newbs.
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Dec 25 2008, 12:34 AM
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Yes, starting the graph at 80% does make the scale misleading. May as well start at 95%, then they'd appear 200% faster!
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Dec 25 2008, 01:07 AM
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yeh its a simple marketing ploy but the graph is mathematicaly wrong. all axis must start at 0 and is there is a jump is has to be displayed with a like zig zag mark. otherwise the the visuals in terms of the size of the bars are grossly misleading when comapring it with the axis making any noob beleive the card is upto 40% beter than the gtx 280
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Dec 25 2008, 06:07 PM
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One Cool Cat Group: Members Posts: 8,581 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Europe Member No.: 35,535 Club SLI Member: No Org.: Geth |
QUOTE (shwy @ Dec 24 2008, 07:12 PM) just so u know, this page is linked from fudzilla FEARS FAMOUS XD just kidding, but yeh, i thought that was pretty cool. That's not something I'm proud of. This will be the beginning of their thread ripping from here. -------------------- My name is Legion, for we are many Sig: BluSOUL | CM690 | EVGA 750i SLI FTW SZ1E | Q6600 G0 @ 3.6GHz 1600FSB 1:1 | Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme | Mushkin XP2 Charcoal Grey CL4 4GB @ 800MHz | EVGA GeForce GTX 285 | Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro | Maxtor 500GB RAID 0 & 1TB SATAII | Thermaltake Toughpower 750W W0116 | Samsung 226BW 22" | Logitech X-540 5.1 | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 | 197.45 WHQL | 15.51 |
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Dec 27 2008, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE (Bladeripper @ Dec 25 2008, 01:07 AM) all axis must start at 0 and is there is a jump is has to be displayed with a like zig zag mark. not by law QUOTE (F.E.A.R. @ Dec 25 2008, 06:07 PM) That's not something I'm proud of. This will be the beginning of their thread ripping from here. hmm good point.... -------------------- My System; Cheapower.
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Dec 28 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (shwy @ Dec 27 2008, 11:35 PM) not by law i didnt say by law the rest of my post explains why its mathemeticaly misleading |
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Dec 28 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (ChrisRay @ Dec 24 2008, 02:08 PM) DId you guys see the power draw? :p Thats significant for more reasons than one. Die Shrink and more efficient processing of power? -------------------- Avatar Done by A2K - 2009
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Dec 28 2008, 09:43 PM
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Nah theres something specific about its design that will make it more friendly to alot of users.
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Dec 28 2008, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (ChrisRay @ Dec 28 2008, 02:43 PM) Nah theres something specific about its design that will make it more friendly to alot of users. more standard PSU's available to run them? 
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